That's true. The "thinking man" games are not trending these days. People need more looter shooters and cookie cutter rpgs

Strangely, level designs of MD are rather uneven, we have Prague w/Palisade which is the that best hub design that AAA games could offer, then we have some rather disappointingly linear levels like G.A.R.M, Utulek, Apex Centre...especially Utulek... feels like Adam were supposed to spend a lot of time there.

It wouldve been great if it wasnt infected with ideological activism.

Originally posted by Kai:

It wouldve been great if it wasnt infected with ideological activism.

How are you supposed to make conspiracy games centered around the decay of the human condition and society, and not have them steeped in activism and paranoia?

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

Originally posted by Kai:

It wouldve been great if it wasnt infected with ideological activism.

How are you supposed to make conspiracy games centered around the decay of the human condition and society, and not have them steeped in activism and paranoia?

Theres a difference between activism ingame narrative and shoved in our face.

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

How are you supposed to make conspiracy games centered around the decay of the human condition and society, and not have them steeped in activism and paranoia?

Theres a difference between activism ingame narrative and shoved in our face.

Lemme guess, Alex was a shade too dark for you so now the entire game is "woke". Lol.

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

How are you supposed to make conspiracy games centered around the decay of the human condition and society, and not have them steeped in activism and paranoia?

Theres a difference between activism ingame narrative and shoved in our face.

What's shoved in your face?

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

Originally posted by Kai:

Theres a difference between activism ingame narrative and shoved in our face.

What's shoved in your face?

Augs life matter, Pritchard and Faridah replaced with, you see a pattern? Having to search Jim's apt only to find his orientation for no reason, etc. Square Enix's ethics department or more like their own SBI department at work thats in effect even today today.

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

What's shoved in your face?

Augs life matter, Pritchard and Faridah replaced with, you see a pattern? Having to search Jim's apt only to find his orientation for no reason, etc. Square Enix's ethics department or more like their own SBI department at work thats in effect even today today.

probably you are right, nobody knows in that woke era what game have been infected in a subliminal way allthough original devs dont want put it.

But overall the game lore is an extension to human revolution, and gave you the option to choose if you are police ally or augments.

But it can be said that this game, in 2016, escape the woke garbage in his peak.

And the deus ex fans, can tell the world, that this saga is dead, but have no really bad bad titles.

Yeah, i never noticed these at the time and thought the augs life matter was just bad marketing, but now that we are aware how these are systematically put in games to play with your thoughts, you start seeing a pattern.

Md was so great design wise and to see how it was ruined because of this is very annoying. The augs life matter was the thing that caught everyones attention back then along with the pre order scheme.

Now the situation is so much worse in western video games is why i thought its better DX stays dead for now, or you know they might even ruin Jensen for the sake of woke.

I reinstalled the game and played it a few minute and he's right...it's awesome

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

What's shoved in your face?

Augs life matter, Pritchard and Faridah replaced with, you see a pattern? Having to search Jim's apt only to find his orientation for no reason, etc. Square Enix's ethics department or more like their own SBI department at work thats in effect even today today.

And here I was assuming you had a high enough IQ to understand the game, especially ARC, and the thread that's been going since HR.

Edit: they had aug/natural riots all the way back in HR, too, along with snobby, pushy airs that naturals are simply inferior. Aug/natural relations are an underlying theme of the series, and something you're introduced to right at the start of OG - which is rife with american patriotism, and loves to highlight broken veterans all over the place.

Almost like the games reflect societal changes of the years when they were made, or something...

I'm not gonna touch your grievance that they replaced two not white characters with two new not white characters - and in the end, they're both mentioned in the story, anyway, and Pritchard even stars in one of the DLCs.

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

Originally posted by Kai:

Augs life matter, Pritchard and Faridah replaced with, you see a pattern? Having to search Jim's apt only to find his orientation for no reason, etc. Square Enix's ethics department or more like their own SBI department at work thats in effect even today today.

And here I was assuming you had a high enough IQ to understand the game, especially ARC, and the thread that's been going since HR.

Yes because * Lives Matter have been used throughout history for every discriminatory tragedy and was not just insinuated towards this specific organisation along with the choices made for characters design and narrative in the game. I now question either your intellect or motive behind ignoring such an obvious pattern.

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

And here I was assuming you had a high enough IQ to understand the game, especially ARC, and the thread that's been going since HR.

Yes because * Lives Matter have been used throughout history for every discriminatory tragedy and was not just insinuated towards this specific organisation along with the choices made for characters design and narrative in the game. I now question either your intellect or motive behind ignoring such an obvious pattern.

It has been used throughout history, especially the Soros fist, which is what's flown. It's as illuminati as it gets. Pay attention to the post-WW2 media landscape.

Edit: https://files.catbox.moe/onnc3z.jpg
Here's what they were going for, and just as the game came out, another fist movement rose up, that just so happened to have the exact same characteristics as all other fist movements in our age. Are you noticing things now? It's almost like these aren't organic at all, and can be easily manufactured on the spot...like what they show happening in MD, in great detail.

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

Originally posted by Kai:

Yes because * Lives Matter have been used throughout history for every discriminatory tragedy and was not just insinuated towards this specific organisation along with the choices made for characters design and narrative in the game. I now question either your intellect or motive behind ignoring such an obvious pattern.

It has been used throughout history, especially the Soros fist, which is what's flown. It's as illuminati as it gets. Pay attention to the post-WW2 media landscape.

Not really, it was a direct association with BLM which by itself wasnt really that big of a deal, wait, it actually is a big deal now. But the problem is the character and narrative choices were made for the game after Square Enix Ethics depart was called out, the ALM only confirms their intentions, SBI like.

Anywy, this is way to obvious why they do this to waste time with discussions, Square Enix is still doing it.