War on the Sea

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Challenge: win without sinking ships
Challenge for experienced players. Win the Operation Watchtower without sinking enemy ships. Do you think this is possible?
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Nope. I doubt that you've even tried your own challenge.
Seems like it would be possible if you just got your own troops and supplies onto the objective locations regardless of the enemy presence. Maybe a lot of submarine or destroyer convoys. If you could hyper-focus the objective with minimal losses, I think you do get enough resources to build up faster than the AI's rate of landings and bombardments could bring the port/airfield level down.

At some point you'll need to move the engineering and fuel, though. Holding back until you have more than enough resources to upgrade Guadalcanal completely in one go regardless of freighter losses might be best. Try to arrive at 5AM or something to maximise night time on approach.

I don't know how consistent it is, but you can make AI task forces retreat for repairs if they have damaged ships, so landing single air-dropped torpedo hits (smaller/weaker than the ones fired by ships/subs; less risk of sinking something with a single torpedo, which is uncommon but possible) on everything might work quite well for keeping the map clear.
Dernière modification de Rocket Witch; 24 juil. 2024 à 11h27
Iv. 25 juil. 2024 à 2h33 
cswiger a écrit :
Nope.
I clarified: for experienced players.
Iv. a écrit :
cswiger a écrit :
Nope.
I clarified: for experienced players.
Clarify whether you've tried your own challenge?

Or is your lack of experience the excuse for why you haven't even bothered...?
Iv. 25 juil. 2024 à 15h31 
cswiger a écrit :
Clarify whether you've tried your own challenge?
Yep.

I want to clarify one more thing. Your "Nope" was related to my "Do you think this is possible?"?
Iv. a écrit :
cswiger a écrit :
Clarify whether you've tried your own challenge?
Yep.
Ah. So, it's not actually a challenge for experienced players.

I want to clarify one more thing. Your "Nope" was related to my "Do you think this is possible?"?
"Related"? Certainly.
it definitely is possible. after all you just have to capture islands. you don't have to sink anything. so you could just get a couple of CAs and a crap ton of MS And AO. use the heavy cruisers for shore bombardment and aircraft for bombing raids. it would just take a long time to do.
By all means, post a campaign savegame showing your success or, failing that, your best attempt. You do lose the challenge if you accidentally sink an enemy ship, yes...?
Iv. 29 juil. 2024 à 0h58 
cswiger a écrit :
You do lose the challenge if you accidentally sink an enemy ship, yes...?

No. It is possible to simply load the last save. The purpose of this challenge is simply to show that the game mechanics in principle allow you to complete the campaign with such a condition.
Iv. 29 juil. 2024 à 1h05 
Сswiger, I'm starting to suspect that you're an experienced player. How about my another challenge. No need to play. Just some theory.
Dernière modification de Iv.; 29 juil. 2024 à 1h06
Iv. a écrit :
Сswiger, I'm starting to suspect that you're an experienced player.
Ah.

How about my another challenge. No need to play. Just some theory.
I think your challenges would be tedious and unrewarding even without save-scumming.

However, I'll wait for you to confirm that for yourself.
Iv. a écrit :
Challenge for experienced players. Win the Operation Watchtower without sinking enemy ships. Do you think this is possible?

Thanks for the idea - I am always looking at different ways to play this game. When I finish my WitP campaign I will try this out to see if it is possible or not. As I am using a mod, I will be using the Operation WT campaign from the TTE mod. This version is a much harder than the vanilla one.
i did not read any other comments yet.. but...

id reckon you could do this...

keep flooding the required ports with troops and such... and you said without sinking, not without damaging or engaging with the enemy... so eventually you might be able to build up enough of a blockade with subs ships and air to continuously engage the enemy inflict heavy damage requiring them to go to port... perpetually
Imperator a écrit :
you said without sinking, not without damaging or engaging with the enemy... so eventually you might be able
But experienced player Cswiger doesn't think this is possible.
How would you comment on this?
Dernière modification de Iv.; 5 aout 2024 à 7h03
Iv. a écrit :
Imperator a écrit :
you said without sinking, not without damaging or engaging with the enemy... so eventually you might be able
But experienced player Cswiger doesn't think this is possible.
How would you comment on this?


his opinion is his, mine is mine. he very well could know something i don't. im not here to debate with others, i just dropped my thoughts on the idea.
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