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Noob Question: 24/7 ASF
Hi there,

I’m just hopping in here hoping to get some more information. I’ve scoured the FAQ, and also the discussions, but my vocabulary on these sort of computer things isn’t the best.

I’ve had ASF on a desktop running 24/7 (with the pc on) but that obviously costs a load of money due to electricity, and it’s really not something I want to be doing.

So I decided to download ASF on my laptop, but as soon as my laptop goes into sleep/hibernation mode, asf stops working.

Now im wondering if there is a possible way of running ASF 24/7.

I know you can somehow make like a remote server like a “vps” i think theyre called (not sure). But I’ve heard they cost money, and like I said, im a cheapskate, so if anyone knows a workaround on this, i’m very interested in some new information!

Thanks for reading, enjoy your day/night :)
Originally posted by Archi:
You can set your laptop to not sleep/hibernate. Alternative to that, if you're on Windows OS, is to run ASF with --system-required command-line argument (check wiki for more details), which will hint Windows to not go into sleep/hibernate for as long as ASF process is running, and it'll automatically allow it to do so once ASF stops working.

Where exactly you run ASF is your own choice. The cheapest way to do so if you calculate long-term savings, is to buy cheap ARM-based mini PC, such as Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W (which normally costs around $15), and run ASF there. Power consumption of such setup should be within 100-300 mA. Assuming higher value, that's 1.5W, which equals to around 1.08 kWh per month, running ASF 24/7. Taking into account electricity costs in Poland, such setup would cost you $0.20 in electricity per month. Considering the fact that in normal stationary PC you typically won't bring electricity lower than 100W in idle, and laptops will typically take at least half of that, the entry cost ($15) of the raspberry pi will pay itself within 1-2 months, maximum 3 if you had some super power-efficient laptop with 33W or less in idle. So 3 months in, and you have a machine for free from electricity cost alone - and if you have more expensive electricity, it'll be even faster than in my example.

Whether or not you want to go for such a setup is your call. Additional value is that you can run more than just ASF on such machine, but downside is you'll need to dig a bit and educate yourself how to do all of that, which might not be feasible, especially if your time is not free. Still, even cheapest VPSes won't offer running ASF for $0.20 monthly or less, the only better option would be to find a service allowing you to run ASF for free, which as you can guess, is either hard or outright impossible to do, and even if possible, always comes with some strings attached.

I'm running ASF myself on my Raspberry Pi 4 - a bit more power-hungry, but also more performant machine, which still doesn't consume more than 5W monthly, being only 3x higher than above, while still being 20x less expensive than idle PC, and around 10x less expensive than a laptop. Such option would be best if you wanted to also run other things than ASF on it, and you have a lot of possibilities in this regard - but if you want something just for ASF, Zero 2W variant is probably the best.
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^ I should note, beside the fact that my vocabulary isnt great on computer/coding/server sort of stuff, neither are my skills:csgoct:
Rudokhvist 11 Jan, 2024 @ 2:19am 
Magic does not exist - for some app to run (ASF included), you need some hardware and electricity, and it happened so that those are not free. Where to run it is totally up to you, ASF has pretty low requirements, so anything would do - old laptop, VPS, raspberry Pi - you name it. Your question is not really related to ASF, since there is nothing ASF-specific in selecting a place to run, so I'll move your topic to general section.
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Archi 12 Jan, 2024 @ 9:14am 
You can set your laptop to not sleep/hibernate. Alternative to that, if you're on Windows OS, is to run ASF with --system-required command-line argument (check wiki for more details), which will hint Windows to not go into sleep/hibernate for as long as ASF process is running, and it'll automatically allow it to do so once ASF stops working.

Where exactly you run ASF is your own choice. The cheapest way to do so if you calculate long-term savings, is to buy cheap ARM-based mini PC, such as Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W (which normally costs around $15), and run ASF there. Power consumption of such setup should be within 100-300 mA. Assuming higher value, that's 1.5W, which equals to around 1.08 kWh per month, running ASF 24/7. Taking into account electricity costs in Poland, such setup would cost you $0.20 in electricity per month. Considering the fact that in normal stationary PC you typically won't bring electricity lower than 100W in idle, and laptops will typically take at least half of that, the entry cost ($15) of the raspberry pi will pay itself within 1-2 months, maximum 3 if you had some super power-efficient laptop with 33W or less in idle. So 3 months in, and you have a machine for free from electricity cost alone - and if you have more expensive electricity, it'll be even faster than in my example.

Whether or not you want to go for such a setup is your call. Additional value is that you can run more than just ASF on such machine, but downside is you'll need to dig a bit and educate yourself how to do all of that, which might not be feasible, especially if your time is not free. Still, even cheapest VPSes won't offer running ASF for $0.20 monthly or less, the only better option would be to find a service allowing you to run ASF for free, which as you can guess, is either hard or outright impossible to do, and even if possible, always comes with some strings attached.

I'm running ASF myself on my Raspberry Pi 4 - a bit more power-hungry, but also more performant machine, which still doesn't consume more than 5W monthly, being only 3x higher than above, while still being 20x less expensive than idle PC, and around 10x less expensive than a laptop. Such option would be best if you wanted to also run other things than ASF on it, and you have a lot of possibilities in this regard - but if you want something just for ASF, Zero 2W variant is probably the best.
Last edited by Archi; 12 Jan, 2024 @ 9:22am
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