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LTK 2016년 5월 20일 오전 8시 46분
Spacechemists Anonymous
I think (I hope) I'm not alone in my struggle with advanced spacechemistry, so let's gather here and help each other out with the tricky assignments.

I'm currently on Suspicious Behavior and utterly failing at finding a workable solution. When I started out I was able to progress in assembling the molecule by bolting on cycle after cycle to move that giant molecule where it was supposed to go, but doing that I inevitably run out of space.

So on the next complete do-over I tried to pre-empt that by moving the first subunit as if it was already full-sized and alternate which atom gets bonded by each waldo - red grabs delta and bonds to carbon, blue does the opposite. It looked promising until I realised that with each of the waldos occupying a subunit bonding cycle at the bottom of the output window - it can't go higher because that would bring the finished molecule out of bounds - it's impossible for both of them to drop the subunit either early or late in alternating cycles, which is necessary because it has to be bonded alternatingly right of the middle and left of the middle, and I only have two bonders arranged vertically in the output window. The other two bonders are in the input window and are required to assemble the subunits. I can't assemble the subunits in the output window either because they'd inevitably collide with the molecule in progress.

In short, I'm out of ideas. Does anyone have some pointers?
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gussmed 2016년 5월 23일 오전 5시 38분 
That's an annoying puzzle because the output molecule is the full size of the right half of the working area.

The output molecule is an alternating series of layers, so you have to build it up from the top, joining a new layer each time. So what you do is build a layer on the left, move it to the top of the output area, bond, and then move on.

Since the bonds between layers alternate, also clear is that the output molecule needs to move one tile left or right with each new layer.

For the building area, keep in mind that you don't necessarily have to move the Carbon atom at all. If you place a bonder underneath where it will appear, all you need to do is move around the H-delta-H molecule, stripping off one H, bonding, and then bonding the remaining H-delta to make a straight H-C-delta-H molecule. Which then needs to be either rotated or bonded to the main output molecule as is.
LTK 2016년 5월 23일 오전 9시 29분 
Okay, all of that I understood from the beginning, I just can't put it in practice. I have a very efficient process for subunit/layer assembly, no problem there. I'm building the molecule from the bottom up instead of top down, which ought to be identical. I'm also using flip-flops to move the first subunit up as if it's already part of the molecule so that I don't get into trouble with an unrepeatable first cycle. However, then I run into a different problem.

Once the program gets to the third cycle, the subunit is misaligned and there's no room for additional instructions to put it in the proper place. The only way to fit more instructions in there is with flip-flops, but because flip-flops take an additional space on the bottom row, I can't move the subunit across a flip-flop without putting it out of bounds. I've tried moving the whole assembly one place to the left but then it starts to collide with the rotating subunit. I might be able to remedy that but it's gonna be an ugly fix.
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LTK 2016년 5월 23일 오후 4시 17분 
Success! It turns out that my very first subunit was misaligned and needed to move further left on the first cycle, which I didn't notice because on the first cycle it has nothing to bond to. That was a really dumb mistake. I did have to painstakingly rearrange the circuit that rotates the subunit so that it doesn't intersect with the right half of the workspace, which was way more tricky.

The next level was child's play in comparison. Ω-pseudoethyne and ∑-ethylene, however, leave me immediately stupefied. It doesn't help that the same problem is staring me at the face in 63 Corvi. Maybe I'll go back and try Moustachium 608.
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