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Chronos 2017년 10월 9일 오후 9시 54분
Can we go back to the 200 level system ?
The rebalance is nice but when you feel weaker than in vanilla its not that fun imo. Now that the skill are mostly the same price those we grinded for weeks and months are back to start. And those at start gona need even more work to buy the skills.

The fun thing to aim for was trying to reach a high enough prestige to buy almost everything but now it seems impossible and demotivating.

The most fun I had was from lvl 100 to 200. now when you finally got enough points to buy the fun stuff your at 99 again and lose it all on prestige :S. People need a room to enjoy the upgrades going from 175 to 74 lvls reduces that alot.
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Neo160 2017년 10월 10일 오전 12시 31분 
please?

^b2k^Tetoaku 2017년 10월 10일 오전 1시 41분 
I agree, non asked and not balanced decision. That "minor" change, just a line, makes the game a whole new thing. What's the purpose for that?
Enryu 2017년 10월 10일 오전 3시 50분 
I recommended to sheep to change more things around but he wanted to see what it was like when it went public first. Give it a day or two and these issues should be fixed.
Enryu 2017년 10월 10일 오전 3시 51분 
Also ZEDSx has to be rebalanced, sheep said he'll have this done today as well.
^b2k^Tetoaku 2017년 10월 10일 오전 4시 16분 
OK
Chronos 2017년 10월 10일 오전 6시 29분 
Are some perks also gona be rebalanced ? Thought most things would be cheaper. Paying 300 points now to lvl faster reloading on healing for medic seems a bit insane now thats 3 prestiges and then your 3 points short :P.

Also skills that unlocked at lvl 100 unlocked pretty fast in 1-2 games you would be 25-100. Now they are lvl 75 with 99 beeing max. ATM its still same speed to get them but if exp get balanced.
muccmaster 2017년 10월 10일 오전 8시 11분 
I agree, we just spent tons of hours of our time and some of us have put a good amount of money into this and now it feels like it was all for nothing. What was wrong with 200 anyway? No matter what level you make the max there's going to be power creep, there's no way around it. There's just so many thing's wrong right now I've completely lost interest in playing. 22 prestige engineer and I feel like I'm prestige one with how awful the dps and skill costs are.
Chronos 2017년 10월 10일 오전 9시 42분 
muccmaster님이 먼저 게시:
I agree, we just spent tons of hours of our time and some of us have put a good amount of money into this and now it feels like it was all for nothing. What was wrong with 200 anyway? No matter what level you make the max there's going to be power creep, there's no way around it. There's just so many thing's wrong right now I've completely lost interest in playing. 22 prestige engineer and I feel like I'm prestige one with how awful the dps and skill costs are.

Yup the zed hp and exp fixes are gona help but the cost of skills is still a pain and in 3 months the same problem will be back some people way stronger then others.
Are we going down to lvl 50 max then xD
Ivy 2017년 10월 10일 오전 11시 24분 
After two years of playing the same perk, I feel like I am starting all over again. At prestige 36 I can't kill anything, I have no dosh, and I'm constantly running out of ammo. I have all day to play and feel this update out, and I have to time to grind to make my FB actually useful once again, but I'm not masochistic enough to pay $20 a month for this pain in my ass. I really don't understand how this will help the power creep, unless the goal is to make the high-level players stop playing.
rebelyell 2017년 10월 10일 오후 3시 59분 
@ ivy .. lol ... perfectly said.. :D ... chase the carrot they say. i say f noooo :sweetcarrots:
DarkDem0n 2017년 10월 10일 오후 4시 19분 
I've put I few hundred hours into this server finally feel like I'm starting to get stronger then all taken away😣. I know you Devs would of put a lot of time and effort into this update and i thank you guys for that, however the update just feels like we are taking more steps back when we should be going forwards. For the love of god go back to 200 lvl cap.
Goth Dobes! 2017년 10월 10일 오후 5시 14분 
Get some fast prestiges in while you can.
Nocti 2017년 10월 11일 오전 5시 54분 
I also agree. I enjoyed this server mostly because I felt powerful alone and in numbers. I like being overwhelmed by something that had become stronger over time to the point my power was nothing. Now, I feel like I'm just constantly overwhelmed regardless, even as a Berserker with all of the main damage resists. Perhaps it'll wear off if I devote a bit more time and some prestige, but not all of us get that.

I personally think that this is a change that should have been in place since the start and that it's far too late to 'go back' safely. If you wanted to make it more of a challenge, XP tweaks and more tweaks to bosses would have been more feasible in my opinion rather than 'reworking' something already loved and accustomed to.

I'm not actively going to complain since I am sort of part-time due to University and battery life and thus have less of a right to argue than anyone else nor am I a founder. I will, however, put out my opinion.

I can't fault the difficulty of bosses, it's a great little change and makes Boss rounds feel exactly like they're supposed to.

I can't say I enjoy it as much as I did, perhaps I just suffer from metathesiophobia and I'll become accustomed to it. I hope everyone else finds peace with this if it goes forward.

Despite what I've said, I guess I'm going to give it a chance. But I just wanted to show my support for returning to the old system, or even going forward(Or backward). It's probably a different story from person to person.
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Scmetz412 2017년 10월 11일 오전 7시 03분 
i also dont like the new changes ,its like starting all over again,but with half the perk,i put a lot of hours to work on perks and now to see it change like it did i wasnt feeling it,will it go back to normal?
muccmaster 2017년 10월 11일 오전 8시 33분 
Exactly, after countless hours of training one class and finally feeling powerful it's like the rug was pulled from underneath me. Fastest way to kill a pve game is to keep "balancing" it. So many bad design choices and over nerfing without any benefits. Go back to the way it was or double the skill points gained.
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