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WhyNot 21 Dec, 2024 @ 1:38am
How could the game complexity grow so much over time ?
After nearly 2 years of not playing the game I installed it again.

Besides losing all my previous 'levels' I was baffled by the added complexity of the game over time : even video 'tutorials' felt like a downer for the game.
For me, this took all the casual fun out of the game and I uninsttalled it.

Is it just me or are people happy with the present state of the game ? Usually I cope with complexity only when coding not when gaming.

Any replacement of HLL like it was in it's early days ?
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:23am 
What complexity do you believe HLL now has that it didn't in the past? Nothing about the core mechanics or gameplay has changed in years. Game is still just as shallow as it has always been
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Roovka 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by WhyNot:
After nearly 2 years of not playing the game I installed it again.

Besides losing all my previous 'levels' I was baffled by the added complexity of the game over time : even video 'tutorials' felt like a downer for the game.
For me, this took all the casual fun out of the game and I uninsttalled it.

Is it just me or are people happy with the present state of the game ? Usually I cope with complexity only when coding not when gaming.

Any replacement of HLL like it was in it's early days ?

From my knowledge, very little has changed over the way the core game of HLL plays, I really just think you're overthinking it.
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WhyNot 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:49am 
I used to play ingeneer for example and you could straight build an outpost...now you have to get ressources first..and so on..
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by WhyNot:
I used to play ingeneer for example and you could straight build an outpost...now you have to get ressources first..and so on..

Only Squad leaders can build outposts, unless you're referring to building defences, for which you have always needed supplies in order to do so.
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σ TheThunderBirds 21 Dec, 2024 @ 4:27am 
Today I learned shooting and making garrisons is very complex.
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TWB*Clell_Miller 21 Dec, 2024 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by WhyNot:
After nearly 2 years of not playing the game I installed it again.

Besides losing all my previous 'levels' I was baffled by the added complexity of the game over time : even video 'tutorials' felt like a downer for the game.
For me, this took all the casual fun out of the game and I uninsttalled it.

Is it just me or are people happy with the present state of the game ? Usually I cope with complexity only when coding not when gaming.

Any replacement of HLL like it was in it's early days ?
I don't see that there was ever anything casual about HLL from the onset.
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by TWB*Clell_Miller:
I don't see that there was ever anything casual about HLL from the onset.

The gunplay in HLL has always been pretty casual, as has tank gameplay. HLL is not a complex game, it just has a few extra elements that aren't present in shooters like CoD and BF that players need to take an extra 10 minutes to learn is all.

Overall, it's incredibly shallow
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KRT™Montaigne 21 Dec, 2024 @ 1:59pm 
It's just got an initially steep learning curve.
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Ratz | Zak 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by TWB*Clell_Miller:
I don't see that there was ever anything casual about HLL from the onset.

The gunplay in HLL has always been pretty casual, as has tank gameplay. HLL is not a complex game, it just has a few extra elements that aren't present in shooters like CoD and BF that players need to take an extra 10 minutes to learn is all.

Overall, it's incredibly shallow
Certainly those who can't strategise (or dont even play the game) will find it shallow.
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:
Originally posted by datCookie:

The gunplay in HLL has always been pretty casual, as has tank gameplay. HLL is not a complex game, it just has a few extra elements that aren't present in shooters like CoD and BF that players need to take an extra 10 minutes to learn is all.

Overall, it's incredibly shallow
Certainly those who can't strategise (or dont even play the game) will find it shallow.

Please do enlighten me on how HLL isn't shallow. The core meta gameplay revolves around ninja garrisons to dog pile objectives. Otherwise, countering artillery is done with Recon, a boring and mindless activity that has been long complained about.

Yawn
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Ratz | Zak 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:
Certainly those who can't strategise (or dont even play the game) will find it shallow.

Please do enlighten me on how HLL isn't shallow. The core meta gameplay revolves around ninja garrisons to dog pile objectives. Otherwise, countering artillery is done with Recon, a boring and mindless activity that has been long complained about.

Yawn

You spend enough time here (but never in the game) so can't be that boring, some might say you're pretty much obsessed with it.
Last edited by Ratz | Zak; 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:49pm
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:

You spend enough time here (but never in the game) so can't be that boring, some might say you're pretty much obsessed with it.

Nice deflection.

I ask again: What is it, to you, that makes HLL not shallow? Please enlighten me.
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Ratz | Zak 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:

You spend enough time here (but never in the game) so can't be that boring, some might say you're pretty much obsessed with it.

Nice deflection.

I ask again: What is it, to you, that makes HLL not shallow? Please enlighten me.

Trying to explain that to someone who never plays it will be difficult. Just glad that, even though you never play it, it has captivated you to this extreme extent.
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datCookie 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:
Trying to explain that to someone who never plays it will be difficult. Just glad that, even though you never play it, it has captivated you to this extreme extent.

A second deflection. Sounds to me like you can't explain the depth you believe this game has. I've already outlined how it doesn't, many times. You're more than welcome to counter that, or just continue making pointless statements about playtime.
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Ratz | Zak 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Ratz | Zak:
Trying to explain that to someone who never plays it will be difficult. Just glad that, even though you never play it, it has captivated you to this extreme extent.

A second deflection. Sounds to me like you can't explain the depth you believe this game has. I've already outlined how it doesn't, many times. You're more than welcome to counter that, or just continue making pointless statements about playtime.
The advanced game cannot be taught. Sorry. I have better things to do than write several paragraphs on the subject. I also think it's interesting to keep you engaged on a game you never play, certainly a peculiar behaviour I've never seen before.
Last edited by Ratz | Zak; 21 Dec, 2024 @ 3:21pm
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