Depends on the mastery of the player at both or either.

Originally posted by C_M_G:

Which is harder, DMC 5 at its hardest (Hell and Hell) or Elden Ring NG+7 No summons?

The diff doesn't change how skilled players can no damage the whole game, i'd say it's dmc5 because i have no experience in elden ring.

It's quite difficult to compare these games.
DMC is 90% attack and 10% dodge.
ER is 10% attack and 90% dodge.
Slightly different skills are required)

DMC 5 HaH is:
SoS enemies.
Any hit is fatal.
No checkpoints.
3 lives to complete the mission.
2 lives for S rank.

Sometimes you have to fight a boss or run the whole mission without taking damage.

DMC is harder... I played elden and it's targeted for different players... It can't be compared lol what a nonsensical question

Originally posted by aka:

DMC is harder... I played elden and it's targeted for different players... It can't be compared lol what a nonsensical question

Your need to be humbled lil buddy

Souls games are mostly knowledge check but you do not need skill once you know the ennemy attack and how to dodge it. It's just "know the boss pattern or die." once you know it it's super easy.

Excepted for few optional bosses but thats because they are badly designed. (As exemple the camera making the battle super hard against Nameless King,
camera against The Maneater from demon, the dragon from Dark souls 2 etc...)

Elden ring is the easiest of the souls game, there's no debat DMC is way harder than Elden Ring and any Souls games in my opinion.

Except DMC, if you want to know whats real difficulty I invit you to play Doom Eternal, Old DOS Shadow Warrior game available for free, Contra, Metal Slug, Castlevania 3... Souls games are not difficult at all, they just require knowledge and patiente. In souls games you will die of course but that's normal, thats how the games are designed but with enough patiente ANYONE can finish Souls games in my opinion since there's no execution/skill involved, just pure knowledge check + the games give you lot of "bypass" to bypass stuff you can find hard (Mimic, magic, pyromancie, summoning etc...)

Elden ring, being more of an rpg, can be cheesed with meta builds

DMC is mechanically deeper and harder. In your comparison H&H is 3 hits and its game over and there is minimal healing available. ER is probably the same at NG+7 but you have a lot of flasks and can keep trying a boss.

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