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Pumis 31 Jan, 2015 @ 2:07am
Factions refuse to be defeated
I have conquested every city and every castle. But some reason 2 factions refuses to die out. I have tried waiting so that they would die out, but it won't work. I did wait over 100 ingame days and yet they still were doing fine. After I used cheats to see the world map I noticed that they didn't even have kings anymore and the lords just kept spawning even after I wiped them all out.
Also the fact that for some reason sargoth reports that enemies are nearby when there is none.

Any solution to this? I really have spend a lot of game time to this game and I want to have my achievement of taking down every faction in game and becoming the king. I tried to search solution but only thing people suggested was waiting and it clearly isn't working out.

Small things to add here. I have had lords as my prison who no longer had any faction and they aren't even escaping. Only way I saw solution to that is to take that prisoner with me and get killed by bandits on purpose to get rid of them.
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Pumis 1 Feb, 2015 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by cqqks:
This bug shouldn't exist, but it does! You should ask your programmer friend to move to Turkey and go to work for TaleWorlds, so he can make us all happy.

In my search for a solution to this bug/glitch, I read MANY complains, both here on Steam and on the TaleWorlds forums about this problem. I had to trash MANY hours of game play because, TaleWorlds dragged their feet with a fix (took them several yrs). So I decided I would I figure out a way to beat this game without their help and I did! It took many hours of saving and playing, saving and playing.

This game went on sale as a finished, ready to play game, 5 yrs ago next month (March 2010). This bug has existed since that time and I know this because I've played it since May 2010. Up until that date, I had never played a buggier, glitched filled game as M&B: Warband in my life. With the DLC (Viking Conquest) and its required patching, TaleWorlds has also been working on Warband fixes. My native game plays fairly well now.

Read my past posts and Good Luck.
I meant myself as programmer. Not my friends even though some of them knows too. I did try to read some of your posts but no them didn't really provide something I have heard already. Bugs are fine in sandboxes, but not everykind of a bug. Like one which prevents people from "winning" the game. Especially if it could be fixed with adding couple lines of code.
cqqks 2 Feb, 2015 @ 3:13am 
Pumis:

EDIT:

There is no simple solution to this problem as some might think. As I mentioned, TaleWorlds has been fixing this game as of late and my game has been working good. So far, 5 of the kings in my game have left the game with no hiccups and all the nobles that belonged to them have moved on to other kingdoms.

Why not just bite the bullet and trash that game of yours and start a new one?

You mentioned playing a game and installing claimants. They don't leave the game after their kingdom is defeated ( but sometimes they do). They either join another faction as a vassel or remain on the map as a rogue trouble maker.

You mentioned playing a game " In the future ", with claimants. I left out that word "future". Just offering a heads up to that future game.

Last edited by cqqks; 2 Feb, 2015 @ 3:48am
Timothius 2 Feb, 2015 @ 3:18am 
Does anyone know what happens to a King in VC when defeated? I took Friese and would really like their King as a Vassal :D

He was one of my "Friends" before I screwed him over and kinda feel bad. Only reason I gunned for his Kingdom was that he was a particularly bad ruler and I wanted to take a Kingdom that might as well not have been there for their idleness.

He's currently landless and out of the game, is he likely to come back?
Pumis 2 Feb, 2015 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by cqqks:
Pumis:

There is no simple solution to this problem as some might think. As I mentioned, TaleWorlds has been fixing this game as of late and my game has been working good. So far, 5 of the kings in my game have left the game with no hiccups and all the nobles that belonged to them have moved on to other kingdoms.

Why not just bite the bullet and trash that game of yours and start a new one?

You mentioned playing a game and installing claimants. They don't leave the game after their kingdom is defeated ( but sometimes they do). They either join another faction as a vassel or remain on the map as a rogue trouble maker.
There is. All you need to do is to make command which checks every faction every now and then make program ask questions like "does it have a castles or cities" if there is no castles or cities under that faction's care then they will be automatically defeated and every vassal they have will either go to exile or join to another faction

easy as ♥♥♥♥.

"Why not just bite the bullet and trash that game of yours and start a new one?"
Over 900 ingame days spended on that one and now you ask me to do same and in worst case of scenario repeat whole thing? ♥♥♥♥ that ♥♥♥♥. That is not how you fix games.

"You mentioned playing a game and installing claimants. They don't leave the game after their kingdom is defeated ( but sometimes they do). They either join another faction as a vassel or remain on the map as a rogue trouble maker."
What the heck are you talking about. I made it pretty clear that I haven't been doing anything with claimants. I'm here talking about the sultan who refuses to freaking give up when he doesn't even exists anymore and holds no fiefs nor any vassals. By all means he should be considered DEAD by now. Guy has been missing over 400 days anyway. King missing a year and still having a faction even without having anyone in it?
cqqks 2 Feb, 2015 @ 3:50am 
I edited my above post.
Pumis 2 Feb, 2015 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by cqqks:
I edited my above post.
Doesn't really change the point. I want both achievements.
Well Fed Tick 2 Sep, 2015 @ 12:11pm 
I am in the same boat. I have defeated all but two factions. My queen has every single city, village, and castle. I have defeated all these lords in battle, but they respawn and stay single units. The message screen is filled with them constantly defecting between the Khaninate and Vaegers back and forth. They don't even attack villages anymore. No one has seen their kings in forever, and they are not even hostile to me.

I tried capturing as many as I could, but they constantly escaped.

I am guessing there is nothing that can be done?
Dr. Atrocious 4 Sep, 2015 @ 7:13am 
I had really hoped this wouldn't happen to me. And then it happened... I got lots of food and tried waiting it out until they disappeared, but nothing's happening except the king exiling everyone. Welp, that's a few dozen hours down the drain...
Well Fed Tick 4 Sep, 2015 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by ℛaveDZ:
I had really hoped this wouldn't happen to me. And then it happened... I got lots of food and tried waiting it out until they disappeared, but nothing's happening except the king exiling everyone. Welp, that's a few dozen hours down the drain...
Yep. It is just a constant flurry of switching allegiences between the final two factions and mine. A bunch will join mine, then get exiled by the queen,then join each others, then join mine.
Dr. Atrocious 4 Sep, 2015 @ 11:23pm 
I was able to fix it... But only because I'm using a mod (Gekokujo). Probably wouldn't work on Native.

So, after running around looking for lords of the ghost faction I finally found one guy and spoke to him. Then I used a cheat that allowed me to join their faction. And after I joined their faction they inherited my castles/towns and all the ghost lords finally appeared. I waited until they sieged a castle and took it then I switched back to my main faction and now all I have to do is take back the castle they took.

I think what triggered the ghost factions to happen is that I took their castles/towns while we weren't at war. But, now we're at war. So since they're the last faction and we're at war I can beat them the way they're supposed to be beaten and their faction will be eliminated like normal.

Edit: It works but doesn't work... Right at the moment I eliminate the faction the game crashes. I can't even get the acheivment for it. :steamsad:
Last edited by Dr. Atrocious; 5 Sep, 2015 @ 12:47am
iSnortPixyStix 26 Jan, 2017 @ 3:57pm 
Dang! Still no solution? D: It's day 937 in my game and I helped Lady Isolla of Suno capture every town/castle, yet the last faction, Kingdom of Vaegirs will not be defeated. The vassals and king are nowhere to be seen and it doesn't help that Lady Isolla keeps kicking out lords for treason while vassals from the Vaegirs are defecting to her. It's a damn loop of lords leaving and joining the kingdom.
IKILLPAIN 22 Nov, 2017 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Pillsbury Doughboy:
Dang! Still no solution? D: It's day 937 in my game and I helped Lady Isolla of Suno capture every town/castle, yet the last faction, Kingdom of Vaegirs will not be defeated. The vassals and king are nowhere to be seen and it doesn't help that Lady Isolla keeps kicking out lords for treason while vassals from the Vaegirs are defecting to her. It's a damn loop of lords leaving and joining the kingdom.

Did you eventually figure it out?
kekskiller 27 Jan, 2019 @ 7:20am 
I have found THE solution!

You have to change the state of the ghost faction to defeated with a savegame editor!

1) Download https://github.com/int19h/WarBender/releases/tag/1.0.4
2) Start Warbender and open your current Savegame.
3) On the left side panel go to Factions -> Kingdom of ... (select your ghosting kingdom).
4) On the right panel go to entry "slots" and to entry "21 (faction_state).
5) Change the value to " sfs_defeated ".

6) Save the savegame (overwrite your current or save as a new one.)
7) Start Warband, load the savegame, check if faction is defeated in the faction screen.
8) If so, wait on the world map for some seconds. ( I just did STRG+SPACE. )

A screen should appear, and the steam achievement pops up.

Check my achievements:
https://gtm.you1.cn/id/kekskiller/stats/MountBlade:Warband

I have unlocked "Golden Throne" TODAY!

Good luck everyone, drink on me! :D
Last edited by kekskiller; 31 Mar, 2023 @ 2:32pm
Well Fed Tick 27 Jan, 2019 @ 11:46am 
Talk about necro
Hammer Of Evil 27 Jan, 2019 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by Three Supreme Tacos:
Talk about necro

rather than that, i'd say it took almost 4 years to find an appropriate solution.
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