autobalance.

snipers invented autobalence

Sniper is more enviroment then skill based

as due to certain map layouts the sniper could be near impossible to see or just the right medium distance that it could take 13 seconds for a spy to walk over there and backstab em

take for example 2fort and badwater

2fort is from my own view the perfect sniper map where its balanced for both snipers and sniper killers

as for some examples for 2fort

1 distance
with how close you are you could genuinley shoot them was demoman from accross the map or go bonk scout go over the bridge wait for it go out then kill em

2 having eyes [idk how else to word this]
with snipers they are hard to see but on 2fort they are crystal clear unless your teammates keep going infront of ya

badwater examples

1 very long sightlines
pretty self explanatory but badwater does have some quite unfair sniper spots

such as the pile of rocks with the ammo and medkit you can go right up against the wall as sniper and basically be invincible as from blu spawn you cannot be noticed at all and often or not tons of snipers use this spot

[it deserve a solution tbh with perhaps jsut adding something to pervent players from going behind the tall rock]

i dont got any other examples or thoughts

just know sightlines of snipers and do your best to have cover and to keep as close to em as ya can or so idk

hope this helps

Sniper is a failure in life

just get out of the sightlines bro

Originally posted by jons papa:

change my mind

I can't.

Originally posted by Meowi:

just get out of the sightlines bro

This.

yea just ovoid 99 percent of the map because sniper exists

Originally posted by jons papa:

every problem in this game is because of sniper change my mind

Not my fault I'm good with sniper sometimes

Originally posted by jons papa:

yea just ovoid 99 percent of the map

this is what you should be doing regardless of whether sniper exists or not.

Trying to change the mind of a Sniper complainer isn't worth the effort. He has plenty of counterplay so long as you don't play maps that are infested with huge sightlines *cough* Payload *cough*. Soldier and to a lesser extent, Demo are the actual problem classes due to how powerful and easy to spam rockets and stickies are, combined with Soldier especially having next to no bad weapons or utilities, while nearly everyone else's got nerfed into the dirt. But sure, Sniper's the problem class because people can get good at aiming and you refuse to play anything but Upward and Pier. Sure.

Originally posted by twunny phaiv:

Originally posted by jons papa:

yea just ovoid 99 percent of the map

this is what you should be doing regardless of whether sniper exists or not.

wat

soldier and demo have to fight you sniper just clicks

Originally posted by jons papa:

soldier and demo have to fight you sniper just clicks

Skill issue

Sniper no Snipe! When the medic has the Vaccinator.