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I'm a Fascist 3 okt @ 22:16
Nationalist China feels unfinished
Nationalist China is probably the most boring country to play due to its unfinished state

Besides Europe/Africa/Pacific Islands, some of the largest and bloodiest battles took place in China and there are many unexplored national focuses that aren't accurated reflected in the half-assed focus tree.

The Nationalists also had weapons, vehicles, and planes that are not present in game. For instance, Nationalists used many American fighter models throughout the course of the war such as the Hawk III, P-40, P-47, P-51 Mustang, B-10, B-25 which can easily be repainted with the Nationalist emblem, just like how Canada uses British planes in game. Furthermore, the Nationalists had a good number of tanks from Germany, Soviet Union, and US, such as Panzer I, T-26, M3 Light, M5 Stuart, and M4 Sherman, all of which could easily replace the generic tank tree.

Even if China didn't make many of the vehicles above, many minor countries in game uses models from major countries, and China being a major ally shouldn't be left in an unfinished state considering it was one of the biggest theatres outside of Europe.
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Gun Metal Grey 4 okt @ 0:46 
Warlord trees:
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Cortez 4 okt @ 16:33 
I will let you in on a little secret: Most of the stuff in this game is unfinished or half-assed
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HappySack 4 okt @ 16:40 
Waking the Tiger was released 6 years ago, and the focus trees that came with it reflected the quality of content at that time.

Compare this to what we have now from Italy and the USSR for example, as well as Germany when the newest DLC drops.
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PyeongyangFrog 4 okt @ 19:42 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Cortez:
I will let you in on a little secret: Most of the stuff in this game is unfinished or half-assed
Absolutely man
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Immortalis 23 timmar sedan 
Ursprungligen skrivet av HappySack:
Waking the Tiger was released 6 years ago, and the focus trees that came with it reflected the quality of content at that time.

Compare this to what we have now from Italy and the USSR for example, as well as Germany when the newest DLC drops.

This.
It’s not unfinished or half assed, it’s simply old.

Which means not only that the devs did not have years upon years of experience (and player feedback) to work with, but also that some of the tools that were developed later (both actual dev tools and game mechanics that were added with later DLC) were not available at the time and could not be integrated seamlessly.

That being said, it seems to me that despite the complaint about the focus tree being “half-assed” in the OP, the main critique is that you don’t get access to unique models for your planes and tanks; which I guess is a valid complaint but not really something that to my mind would contribute to the nation feeling “unfinished” in any way as those have exactly zero impact on gameplay.
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Cortez 11 timmar sedan 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Immortalis:
Ursprungligen skrivet av HappySack:
Waking the Tiger was released 6 years ago, and the focus trees that came with it reflected the quality of content at that time.

Compare this to what we have now from Italy and the USSR for example, as well as Germany when the newest DLC drops.

This.
It’s not unfinished or half assed, it’s simply old.

Which means not only that the devs did not have years upon years of experience (and player feedback) to work with, but also that some of the tools that were developed later (both actual dev tools and game mechanics that were added with later DLC) were not available at the time and could not be integrated seamlessly.

That being said, it seems to me that despite the complaint about the focus tree being “half-assed” in the OP, the main critique is that you don’t get access to unique models for your planes and tanks; which I guess is a valid complaint but not really something that to my mind would contribute to the nation feeling “unfinished” in any way as those have exactly zero impact on gameplay.
Look at Soviet focus tree (especialy alt-his tree) and tell me it's not half-assed
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Immortalis 11 timmar sedan 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Cortez:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Immortalis:

This.
It’s not unfinished or half assed, it’s simply old.

Which means not only that the devs did not have years upon years of experience (and player feedback) to work with, but also that some of the tools that were developed later (both actual dev tools and game mechanics that were added with later DLC) were not available at the time and could not be integrated seamlessly.

That being said, it seems to me that despite the complaint about the focus tree being “half-assed” in the OP, the main critique is that you don’t get access to unique models for your planes and tanks; which I guess is a valid complaint but not really something that to my mind would contribute to the nation feeling “unfinished” in any way as those have exactly zero impact on gameplay.
Look at Soviet focus tree (especialy alt-his tree) and tell me it's not half-assed

It's not.

You might not like it, you might wish they had spent more time on it or provided more branching paths (or, as is the most common issue people seem to have with the Soviet Union, "but what about this extremely obscure sect of the communist party that disappeared into nothing and has not been heard since? Why couldn't you make it part of the game as I do think it would be a good idea?") but it's a matter of personal taste.
Some of us find having enormous, extremely long and complicated focus trees to be quite appealing, some find the same exact thing to be a stupid waste and a reason not to play that content.

Paradox (like any game developer) has a need to strike a balance between the different interest groups that comprise the playerbase.
And in that spirit they make it extremely easy to mod their games to suit everyone's personal taste.

But alright, I'll bite.
What would it take in your opinion to "complete" the focus tree, especially the alt-history paths?
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Biggs 5 timmar sedan 
i think every nation should have a focus tree that allows them to go 4 ideologies ways and war/peace preparations
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Vik 4 timmar sedan 
Yeah most of the early DLC was really half-baked (looking at you, TfV). It's really telling that they're reworking DLC trees and re-reworking Germany's tree. At this point I kinda just wanna play HOI3
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Fighteraviator120 1 timme sedan 
based name
#10
DerRitter 1 timme sedan 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Cortez:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Immortalis:

This.
It’s not unfinished or half assed, it’s simply old.

Which means not only that the devs did not have years upon years of experience (and player feedback) to work with, but also that some of the tools that were developed later (both actual dev tools and game mechanics that were added with later DLC) were not available at the time and could not be integrated seamlessly.

That being said, it seems to me that despite the complaint about the focus tree being “half-assed” in the OP, the main critique is that you don’t get access to unique models for your planes and tanks; which I guess is a valid complaint but not really something that to my mind would contribute to the nation feeling “unfinished” in any way as those have exactly zero impact on gameplay.
Look at Soviet focus tree (especialy alt-his tree) and tell me it's not half-assed
that tree is the LEAST half-assed one in the game
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