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Blhexa 23 Nov @ 2:07pm
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SLUGGING/TUNNELING/CAMPING PROBLEM
I am uninstalling the game till they adress the issue on toxic killer behaviour. I am tired of 9 out of 10 games being a sweaty dude that can't even bother to chase and loop with us to show his skill. He just tunnels one till he dies or bleeds out and if we try to save him we get slugged too.

Even if they wanna make the game more killer sided it's not the same as making 4 out of 5 players in your match miserable that they don't even wanna play again after such an experience.

And even they added the charge bar to bother campers is as easy as waiting a little far, or return to hook as soon as someone unhooks (with some killers with fast mobility it takes less than 10 sec). Idk what the solution might be, maybe unbreakeable for all (at least once per game), maybe decisive for all... but this can't stay this way, or maybe it can, that's why i won't bother playing again.

Pd: for those of you that think, the counter is easy, just let them die and do gens or sth among those lines. I don't want to, because I wouldn't like others doing that on me. I have empathy and i want for everyone to play the game, which is the point, right? PLAY, not even have fun, sometimes u'll face a killer u don't like or thats is simply better than you. But at least u will PLAY the game, and learn.
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Originally posted by KrakenCrow13y:
Originally posted by Kitten:
Originally posted by KrakenCrow13y:

Okay. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better about ruining other people’s matches over and over. Maybe that’s the case at really high MMR against 4 man SWFs with comms. Not anywhere else. Definitely not in solo queue. If you have to tunnel to win in low-mid MMR against solo queue, the solo queue survivors are not the ones with a skill issue.

OP is right, and it’s why I’ve switched from solo survivor main to chill killer main.
And you think doing gens fast is fun for the killer? The double standards!

Have you played solo queue? Do you know what it feels like to be start-of-match tunneled in the majority of your matches when you’re just starting out? Because that was my first 20 hours in this game. Out of about 40 matches, I won 4. 2 due to friendly killers. Not only is it not fun, the person targeted doesn’t get to learn anything about how to get better at the game because they aren’t allowed to play anything resembling a full match, and to add salt to the wound, they’re rewarded with a pathetic BP bonus b/c the killer decided to hard tunnel them at 5 gens.

Survivors doing gens fast isn’t fun, but it’s counterable in most cases. Hard tunneling isn’t. If a killer decides they want you out of a match early-unless you’re a looping God with over 1,000 hours-you’re out of the match early. And even if it’s a SWF with comms and perfectly coordinated perks to genrush, you still get to play out the full match as killer and you still get a decent BP bonus. Not fun, definitely annoying, but not downright infuriating-at least not for me-your mileage may vary.
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[They/Them] ChesseTheWasp 23 Nov @ 2:15pm 
how do you expect the killer to win without tunneling people? 1v4 is survivor sided so the only way to win is to eliminate a player to even the playing field as soon as possible
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BOON: Zero 23 Nov @ 2:30pm 
Some time ago I probably would agree. Then one day I decided to get Iridiscent 1 as a killer and now I understand why to use all the "toxic" strategies, you really have not much of a choice at the end of the day :) and the better the survivors are the more toxic strategy you have to use. It is what it is, I learned to understand it and today I even miss the good days of facamping bubbas. My opinion :)
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NetroRX 23 Nov @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by They/Them ChesseTheWasp:
how do you expect the killer to win without tunneling people? 1v4 is survivor sided so the only way to win is to eliminate a player to even the playing field as soon as possible
This:steamthumbsup:
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Ms.Chief 23 Nov @ 2:43pm 
the differentiation is when become such "strategies" toxic? if you go full fledged tryhard and open toxic barrels left and right with 5 gens left 2 min in a match... yeah kinda toxic. but if 2 or 3 gens are done and you still have no real pressure, it is fine to go after one surv to elimate one, or let one on the ground bleed because you spottet another surv in close range and want to build pressure, all that is fine and not toxic. it just depends on the situation and the match.
Last edited by Ms.Chief; 23 Nov @ 2:44pm
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erandomone 23 Nov @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Ms.Chief:
the differentiation is when become such "strategies" toxic? if you go full fledged tryhard and open toxic barrels left and right with 5 gens left 2 min in a match... yeah kinda toxic. but if 2 or 3 gens are done and you still have no real pressure, it is fine to go after one surv to elimate one, or let one on the ground bleed because you spottet another surv in close range and want to build pressure, all that is fine and not toxic. it just depends on the situation and the match.

The issue is that if you're down to 2-3 gens and you haven't been trying to win, turning that momentum around is incredibly difficult unless you're against people you'd stomp from the beginning.
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Crazy muffin 23 Nov @ 2:53pm 
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Help me understand something you say you cant bother with killer that cant loop and chase but complain about tunneling when the main reason tunneling work is because the survivor you are chasing after is not a good looper.

I wish player will stop saying tunneling, camping and slugging is toxic those arr strat that help you win its like if killer start to say survivor that work on gen, bodyblock and heal are toxic it make no sense its legit strat that help you win match.

Its impossible to make the game killer sided because other killer then nurse exist.
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Snozer 23 Nov @ 3:57pm 
Just start the game with the gens done and the gates at 99%.

Will that make you happy?

The survivors objective already only takes 3 to 4 minutes.. that is why killers are doing this.
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KrakenCrow13y 23 Nov @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by They/Them ChesseTheWasp:
how do you expect the killer to win without tunneling people? 1v4 is survivor sided so the only way to win is to eliminate a player to even the playing field as soon as possible

Okay. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better about ruining other people’s matches over and over. Maybe that’s the case at really high MMR against 4 man SWFs with comms. Not anywhere else. Definitely not in solo queue. If you have to tunnel to win in low-mid MMR against solo queue, the solo queue survivors are not the ones with a skill issue.

OP is right, and it’s why I’ve switched from solo survivor main to chill killer main.
Last edited by KrakenCrow13y; 23 Nov @ 4:23pm
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Broccoli & Cheese 23 Nov @ 4:26pm 
Tactics that help players to increase their wining chances are not toxic nor a toxic behavior. Unfun to go against indeed, but not toxic in general.

Edit: Someone got upset. Your steam point is gratefully accepted.
Last edited by Broccoli & Cheese; 24 Nov @ 1:43pm
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The Dreamer 24 Nov @ 9:39am 
What even is this post? Killers literally have to use those tactics cause survivor is in a extremely busted state (as usual). Idk why yall are still complaining about camping/tunneling/slugging, when bhvr has given you all the tools to counter it. And i know yall see the tools, cause thats all survivors use now. The same old meta perks like a bunch of mass produced drones. If yall dont care about a killers fun, and proceed to fly through gens in the time it takes a killer to get 1 hook, or annoy them with flashlights back to the stone age, then why should a killer bend over backwards for yall to have fun.

Be happy bhvr is too busy listening to the crybaby survivor mains, instead of listening to their killer playerbase, cause otherwise the game wouldnt have reached this point
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Kompetenzia 24 Nov @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Blhexa:
I am uninstalling the game till they adress the issue on toxic killer behaviour. I am tired of 9 out of 10 games being a sweaty dude that can't even bother to chase and loop with us to show his skill. He just tunnels one till he dies or bleeds out and if we try to save him we get slugged too.

Even if they wanna make the game more killer sided it's not the same as making 4 out of 5 players in your match miserable that they don't even wanna play again after such an experience.

And even they added the charge bar to bother campers is as easy as waiting a little far, or return to hook as soon as someone unhooks (with some killers with fast mobility it takes less than 10 sec). Idk what the solution might be, maybe unbreakeable for all (at least once per game), maybe decisive for all... but this can't stay this way, or maybe it can, that's why i won't bother playing again.

Pd: for those of you that think, the counter is easy, just let them die and do gens or sth among those lines. I don't want to, because I wouldn't like others doing that on me. I have empathy and i want for everyone to play the game, which is the point, right? PLAY, not even have fun, sometimes u'll face a killer u don't like or thats is simply better than you. But at least u will PLAY the game, and learn.

play killer ure self against sweaty teabag comps u see how strong survivors are and survivors expect killers to chase the best surv for 5 minutes instead of using his brain so that u can teabag the killer at the end of the game on gate and trashtalk after u need to stop crying yo.
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Kitten 24 Nov @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by KrakenCrow13y:
Originally posted by They/Them ChesseTheWasp:
how do you expect the killer to win without tunneling people? 1v4 is survivor sided so the only way to win is to eliminate a player to even the playing field as soon as possible

Okay. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better about ruining other people’s matches over and over. Maybe that’s the case at really high MMR against 4 man SWFs with comms. Not anywhere else. Definitely not in solo queue. If you have to tunnel to win in low-mid MMR against solo queue, the solo queue survivors are not the ones with a skill issue.

OP is right, and it’s why I’ve switched from solo survivor main to chill killer main.
And you think doing gens fast is fun for the killer? The double standards!
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KrakenCrow13y 24 Nov @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Kitten:
Originally posted by KrakenCrow13y:

Okay. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better about ruining other people’s matches over and over. Maybe that’s the case at really high MMR against 4 man SWFs with comms. Not anywhere else. Definitely not in solo queue. If you have to tunnel to win in low-mid MMR against solo queue, the solo queue survivors are not the ones with a skill issue.

OP is right, and it’s why I’ve switched from solo survivor main to chill killer main.
And you think doing gens fast is fun for the killer? The double standards!

Have you played solo queue? Do you know what it feels like to be start-of-match tunneled in the majority of your matches when you’re just starting out? Because that was my first 20 hours in this game. Out of about 40 matches, I won 4. 2 due to friendly killers. Not only is it not fun, the person targeted doesn’t get to learn anything about how to get better at the game because they aren’t allowed to play anything resembling a full match, and to add salt to the wound, they’re rewarded with a pathetic BP bonus b/c the killer decided to hard tunnel them at 5 gens.

Survivors doing gens fast isn’t fun, but it’s counterable in most cases. Hard tunneling isn’t. If a killer decides they want you out of a match early-unless you’re a looping God with over 1,000 hours-you’re out of the match early. And even if it’s a SWF with comms and perfectly coordinated perks to genrush, you still get to play out the full match as killer and you still get a decent BP bonus. Not fun, definitely annoying, but not downright infuriating-at least not for me-your mileage may vary.
Last edited by KrakenCrow13y; 24 Nov @ 10:45am
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Little Baby Jane 24 Nov @ 11:53pm 
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all of those wouldnt happen if you dont get caught.. if your getting tunneled it measn ur bad at chase so killer prefers a easy target improve ur chase IQ.. BHVR have given u so many options for anti slug.. use your head.. if ur last one standing dont run around.. sneak and heal the person farthest from killer ..have patience.. ppl who complain about tunneling most of the times have a very low survival IQ.
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Goober Mensch 25 Nov @ 12:21am 
Ok bye. Also btw, devs themselves said all 3 of those are viable ways to play plus there are these great things called perks, a few of which are designed specifically to counter such things. Crazy right?
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