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Skrap

24 Nov @ 12:30pm

Are Fallout 4s old mods still broken?

I gave up on the game due to a bug with sim settlements and getting the whole UI bugged. After that they released the next gen update which broke the game completely and made it unlaunchable. Its been more than 5 months since the update. Are the old mods that are supposed to be broken by the patch fixed now?

have a ton of mods active. The mod that is breaking my game though is Sim Settlements. I downloaded the update for it and still , when i install it, the game doesnt even pass the splash screen stage. Any ideas? The mods were working correctly together before and i know that for a fact since its a 100 hour save file. Disabling SS2 , launching and loading a save 15 minutes prior to the latest one plays fine. Although i get a message that workshop framework detected entities that no longer exist and that i should stop playing the save file. Any suggestions on how to make things work out again? I want Sim Settlements installed.

Load Order goes as follows.
- Fallout 4 and Dlc
-Unofficial Patch
-ArmorKeywords
-WorkshopFramework
-XDI (dialoge mod)
-MutantMenagerie
-MutantMenagerieFarHarbor
-RepopulateSalem
-SS2
-SS2_XPAC_Chapter2
-MutantMenagerieNukaWorld
-SS2_XPAC_Chapter3
-AmericaRising2
-HolotapeDisplays
...etc...
-SS2CityPlanContest (...)
-(other mods)

There is defenitely something wrong with the load order, but even then, should the game crash at a loading screen? Right now i dont even get to the intro video with SS2 enabled.

Last edited by Skrap; 24 Nov @ 9:47pm

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p4th

24 Nov @ 1:15pm

if you want to play the updated version of the game with mods you have to go to each of your mod pages and see if they have updates, or if they even need to be updated

the other option is to downgrade. I used the below downgrader a few times it only took a couple minutes

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81630?tab=description

Skrap

24 Nov @ 2:31pm

I have a ton of mods active. The mod that is breaking my game though is Sim Settlements. I downloaded the update for it and still , when i install it, the game doesnt even pass the splash screen stage. Any ideas? The mods were working correctly together before and i know that for a fact since its a 100 hour save file. Disabling SS2 , launching and loading a save 15 minutes prior to the latest one plays fine. Although i get a message that workshop framework detected entities that no longer exist and that i should stop playing the save file. Any suggestions on how to make things work out again? I want Sim Settlements installed.

Thanks in advance!

Skrap

24 Nov @ 2:36pm

Load Order goes as follows.
- Fallout 4 and Dlc
-Unofficial Patch
-ArmorKeywords
-WorkshopFramework
-XDI (dialoge mod)
-MutantMenagerie
-MutantMenagerieFarHarbor
-RepopulateSalem
-SS2
-SS2_XPAC_Chapter2
-MutantMenagerieNukaWorld
-SS2_XPAC_Chapter3
-AmericaRising2
-HolotapeDisplays
...etc...
-SS2CityPlanContest (...)
-(other mods)

There is defenitely something wrong with the load order, but even then, should the game crash at a loading screen? Right now i dont even get to the intro video with SS2 enabled.

Nite69

24 Nov @ 2:43pm

It depends on the mod, some older ones still work fine other don't , won't know until you test them, be sure to make a backup save before you load them

SaelorMoon has Fallout 4

24 Nov @ 3:46pm

Originally posted by Skrap:
I gave up on the game due to a bug with sim settlements and getting the whole UI bugged. After that they released the next gen update which broke the game completely and made it unlaunchable. Its been more than 5 months since the update. Are the old mods that are supposed to be broken by the patch fixed now?

None of mine ever broke, but I only use a half dozen of them. The upgrade never hurt anything for me, but YMMV.

itzRiceKrispies has Fallout 4

24 Nov @ 3:56pm

Alot of them seem to be. Some work though, for whatever reason.

gregnewman2022 has Fallout 4

24 Nov @ 5:12pm

Most mods are working . Almost all of the '' script extender '' mods are working . The are a few mods that have never been updated seen they were put on Nexus , then there other mods out there that are '' version specific '' ( for example , I actually run the GOG version )
, then there mods out there that will flat break your game , sometimes to the point where you have re-install your game .

Just read the installation instructions and the requirements of the mod and you should be OK .

Last edited by gregnewman2022; 24 Nov @ 5:14pm

Zekiran

24 Nov @ 6:14pm

Originally posted by Skrap:
I have a ton of mods active. The mod that is breaking my game though is Sim Settlements. I downloaded the update for it and still , when i install it, the game doesnt even pass the splash screen stage. Any ideas? The mods were working correctly together before and i know that for a fact since its a 100 hour save file. Disabling SS2 , launching and loading a save 15 minutes prior to the latest one plays fine. Although i get a message that workshop framework detected entities that no longer exist and that i should stop playing the save file. Any suggestions on how to make things work out again? I want Sim Settlements installed.

Thanks in advance!

Are you using Sim Settlements?

Or are you using Sim Settlements TWO?

you cannot use BOTH of them, in the same game. So just to be clear your statement doesn't say ss2 first, but you add 2 later.

Otherwise you'll need to make sure that you are using the CORRECT version of Workshop Framework for the version of SS you're on. 1 and 2 are *probably* different, though I might be wrong on that.

UsernameTaken666 has Fallout 4

24 Nov @ 8:33pm

Originally posted by Skrap:
I gave up on the game due to a bug with sim settlements and getting the whole UI bugged. After that they released the next gen update which broke the game completely and made it unlaunchable. Its been more than 5 months since the update. Are the old mods that are supposed to be broken by the patch fixed now?

Still broke.

Skrap

24 Nov @ 9:46pm

Originally posted by Zekiran:
Originally posted by Skrap:
I have a ton of mods active. The mod that is breaking my game though is Sim Settlements. I downloaded the update for it and still , when i install it, the game doesnt even pass the splash screen stage. Any ideas? The mods were working correctly together before and i know that for a fact since its a 100 hour save file. Disabling SS2 , launching and loading a save 15 minutes prior to the latest one plays fine. Although i get a message that workshop framework detected entities that no longer exist and that i should stop playing the save file. Any suggestions on how to make things work out again? I want Sim Settlements installed.

Thanks in advance!
Are you using Sim Settlements?

Or are you using Sim Settlements TWO?

you cannot use BOTH of them, in the same game. So just to be clear your statement doesn't say ss2 first, but you add 2 later.

Otherwise you'll need to make sure that you are using the CORRECT version of Workshop Framework for the version of SS you're on. 1 and 2 are *probably* different, though I might be wrong on that.

You are right about that, I am using SS2

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Zekiran

25 Nov @ 12:43am

I'd suggest hitting up their discord or whatever forum they might have then since their mod is a massive beast and probably has a dedicated area for bug reports and issue resolution. We can flail around and try but they'd be way more likely to have real answers.

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MightyMods88 25 Nov @ 5:01am

Allot of mod authors stated they won't be updating , your better off running the "old" version.

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Nightlistic has Fallout 4

25 Nov @ 5:44am

Just downgrade to the previous update. Plenty of tutorials on how, and how to prevent your game from Updating. Takes a few minutes to do.

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Xenon The Noble has Fallout 4

25 Nov @ 7:47am

- Fallout 4 and Dlc Always was broken, mostly fixed by UOFO4 patch et al
-Unofficial Patch fixed
-ArmorKeywords always was broken, just takes a while to realize it causes CTD
-WorkshopFramework always was broken, just takes a while to realize it causes CTD
-XDI (dialoge mod) fixed
-AmericaRising2 always was broken, just takes a while to realize it borked your game

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