not yet, body cam?

I did a quick search.
This game seems to be using same game engine as The Division... probably a newer version ( tho that's not guaranteed actually ), but it's still the same engine - so in practical terms, it means the infamous problems plaguing The Division could HYPOTHETICALLY be possible in this new game too...

Also, let's not forget - it's UBISOFT - the longer this company exists, the more gamedev attrocities they cause.
Starting from yearly copy-paste same-old-stuff slop ( that some people happily brainlessly buy ), going through absolutely I N S A N E terms of service, continuing through attrocious app, server backend which "forgets" which games you OWN and PAID FOR, silencing criticism on forums, nicknames resetting after enough inactivity, accounts getting TERMINATED after enough inactivity ( cue company running with the licenses you paid for ), piss poor customer support, even landing on absolutely DERANGED public PR suggestions by company's higher-ups, including but not limited to in regards to "ownership" and whatnot.
I could go on, but I have better things to do today.

I don't mean to put a cold blanket on your head - but - Ubisoft isn't a "good" company by ANY capacity, and at this day and age it's FAIR to at least be wary of their games, if not outright avoid them all...
No offence.

This is just my personal warning, and you can ignore it if you wish, but I'd advise you to avoid multiplayer games from:
- Ubisoft
- Nexon, and it's many subsidiaries
- some others, I'd have to think deeper to remind myself the individual cases

It definitely does play like it a tiny bit; alternatively I'd say look into Shatterline (which is coming out of EA shortly), or even boot up some Dirty Bomb during peak hours, it still has a pretty dedicated following.

While a bit more sweaty and closer to Brink in TTK reliance on teamwork/gadgets, some aspects of The Finals also might fit the bill (it just needs more modes imo)

Ubisoft...

As much as I want another GITS .....uhg ....ubisoft .....

Yeah... that's the biggest downside. Ubisoft.
Then again, were the publishers of First Assault any better?

Originally posted by Profile_Name:

Yeah... that's the biggest downside. Ubisoft.
Then again, were the publishers of First Assault any better?

If this a joke?

Don't take this the wrong way - but your take is somewhat >> REDACTED <<.

Here's a very important life lesson that some people fail to comprehend ( I am NOT suggesting any of you are "those people" ) :
Just because entity B is WORSE than entity A, does not make entity A "good" in any way...

YES - Ubisoft is a GOD AWFUL company, that was making blunders for WAY over a decade - those select FEW who read Terms of Service of game platforms BEFORE signing onto them ( cue eg myself ), would know their Uplay TOS was simply peak insanity in every way you could spin it... It was so abstract and outlandish, there's no amount of "wtf" that could describe it.

Ubisoft is guilty of many anti-consumer and anti-gamedev-industry blunders, just EXAMPLES being:
- always online singleplayer games ( in some cases, partially patched later )
- desktop app that could be featured on r / crappydesign
- INSANE terms of service
- abusing legal loopholes
- crappy support
- silencing criticism
- creating a copy-paste garbage yearly slop, that people will buy anyway, because some people are too blindly loyal to a franchise to see things for what they TRULY are
- expiring loyalty program points
- account management system that is one of the worst in the industry, where there's NO WAY to do everything either through the desktop app or the web interface, you have to use both, and in many cases digging to certain settings is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ near impossible, because in their ultimate wisdom Ubisoft "forgot" to update references in their backend over the years, so 404 http errors are to be expected for less popular settings sub-sites
- terminating accounts of people who had active licenses ( in some cases: RETAIL type licenses, as in: activated box keys ), simply because those people didn't log in for a longer while
- many other things, I don't feel like listing everything...


Yes, NEXON corp is WORSE.
They have long history of extremely scammy behaviours - both towards customers AND towards gamedev industry itself. They have also done things which put them on the radar of legal authorities in their HQ country of operations ( South Korea ).
But that doesn't make Ubisoft any level of acceptable...

It doesn't work that way.

Nexon is a terrible awful company that should have never been let touch the GITS intellectual property to begin with - the project was BOUND to it's eventual fate - it was GUARANTEED - because that's what Nexon does, they whip out marketing, they lure in customer base, they milk the project, they ignore community feedback, they butcher game patches, then eventually they make an excuse to burn the project on the stake, while running with people's money - NO REFUNDS! - rinse and repeat right onto the next project...
Literally not a single Nexon game should be played by ANYONE with common sense, who doesn't enjoy being f-d in the REDACTED by the big corp.

Ubisoft meanwhile - the days of their "good games" are LONG GONE - the customer experience you get nowadays is TERRIBLE, they as a company have proven they have zero goodwill, and are in arms race with other "big greedy corpos" over who is "the greatest in evil" one.


IF YOU HAVE A COMMON SENSE post 2016 and you play games:
- remember, NO PRE-ORDERS!
- no gatcha games!
- no kernel-level anti-cheats!
- no always online!
- no NEXON
- no Ubisoft
- no Epic Games
- f-k Bobby Kotick ( !!!!!!!!!!! )
- and read the damn fine print!

"but but but..." - the decision is ultimately yours. But remember, you only have yourself to blame afterwards.

And as a brief off-top one liner: on the subject of EGS - there's no such thing as "FREE" - you are simply paying with something else than money. I won't elaborate.

The list would be very long for "if you are a game developer post 2016" so for now I won't be posting that :P

But mark my words:
in the world of capitalism, there's no such thing as "free", 99.(9) % companies LIE to you when they tell you they "care" about you, privacy is an illusion, not reading fine print makes YOU look bad and makes YOU pay for it, and giving out your insert-word for CONVENIENCE is just a special level of ignorance...


edit:
fixed some typos, added little bit of text here and there while at it

Originally posted by B1tF1ghter:

Originally posted by Profile_Name:

Yeah... that's the biggest downside. Ubisoft.
Then again, were the publishers of First Assault any better?

If this a joke?

Don't take this the wrong way - but your take is somewhat >> REDACTED <<.

Here's a very important life lesson that some people fail to comprehend ( I am NOT suggesting any of you are "those people" ) :
Just because entity B is WORSE than entity A, does not make entity A "good" in any way...

YES - Ubisoft is a GOD AWFUL company, that was making blunders for WAY over a decade - those select FEW who read Terms of Service of game platforms BEFORE signing onto them ( cue eg myself ), would know their Uplay TOS was simply peak insanity in every way you could spin it... It was so abstract and outlandish, there's no amount of "wtf" that could describe it.

Ubisoft is guilty of many anti-consumer and anti-gamedev-industry blunders, just EXAMPLES being:
- always online singleplayer games ( in some cases, partially patched later )
- desktop app that could be featured on r / crappydesign
- INSANE terms of service
- abusing legal loopholes
- crappy support
- silencing criticism
- creating a copy-paste garbage yearly slop, that people will buy anyway, because some people are too blindly loyal to a franchise to see things for what they TRULY are
- expiring loyalty program points
- account management system that is one of the worst in the industry, where there's NO WAY to do everything either through the desktop app or the web interface, you have to use both, and in many cases digging to certain settings is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ near impossible, because in their ultimate wisdom Ubisoft "forgot" to update references in their backend over the years, so 404 http errors are to be expected for less popular settings sub-sites
- terminating accounts of people who had active licenses ( in some cases: RETAIL type licenses, as in: activated box keys ), simply because those people didn't log in for a longer while
- many other things, I don't feel like listing everything...


Yes, NEXON corp is WORSE.
They have long history of extremely scammy behaviours - both towards customers AND towards gamedev industry itself. They have also done things which put them on the radar of legal authorities in their HQ country of operations ( South Korea ).
But that doesn't make Ubisoft any level of acceptable...

It doesn't work that way.

Nexon is a terrible awful company that should have never been let touch the GITS intellectual property to begin with - the project was BOUND to it's eventual fate - it was GUARANTEED - because that's what Nexon does, they whip out marketing, they lure in customer base, they milk the project, they ignore community feedback, they butcher game patches, then eventually they make an excuse to burn the project on the stake, while running with people's money - NO REFUNDS! - rinse and repeat right onto the next project...
Literally not a single Nexon game should be played by ANYONE with common sense, who doesn't enjoy being f-d in the REDACTED by the big corp.

Ubisoft meanwhile - the days of their "good games" are LONG GONE - the customer experience you get nowadays is TERRIBLE, they as a company have proven they have zero goodwill, and are in arms race with other "big greedy corpos" over who is "the greatest in evil" one.


IF YOU HAVE A COMMON SENSE post 2016 and you play games:
- remember, NO PRE-ORDERS!
- no gatcha games!
- no kernel-level anti-cheats!
- no always online!
- no NEXON
- no Ubisoft
- no Epic Games
- f-k Bobby Kotick ( !!!!!!!!!!! )
- and read the damn fine print!

"but but but..." - the decision is ultimately yours. But remember, you only have yourself to blame afterwards.

And as a brief off-top one liner: on the subject of EGS - there's no such thing as "FREE" - you are simply paying with something else than money. I won't elaborate.

The list would be very long for "if you are a game developer post 2016" so for now I won't be posting that :P

But mark my words:
in the world of capitalism, there's no such thing as "free", 99.(9) % companies LIE to you when they tell you they "care" about you, privacy is an illusion, not reading fine print makes YOU look bad and makes YOU pay for it, and giving out your insert-word for CONVENIENCE is just a special level of ignorance...


edit:
fixed some typos, added little bit of text here and there while at it

Yeesh. Got it. Not a good idea to grade evils.

Originally posted by Profile_Name:

Originally posted by B1tF1ghter:

( for the love of insert-whatever, pls don't quote ENTIRE msgs when it's not necessary )

Yeesh. Got it. Not a good idea to grade evils.

To top it off:
I won't refer to anyone in particular, but, it's also important to note 2 things:
1. Gamedev industry has gone completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane internally and things continue in downward spiral since early 2017, in some cases much earlier, but I'd say more or less 2017 is when things took a MAJOR nosedive for worse. Things HAVE been getting worse post 2000, post 2005, post 2010, and so on. But post 2017 something has changed and it's as if several MASSIVE gamedev-related entities decided "now it's the time to flip a switch" or something.... As if we got shifted into a different worldline...
There are ofc some MAJOR personnas in this, such as aformentioned Kotick, but it's a long story...

2. "Good vs evil" is NOT a freaking SCALE!! You judge both separately ! PERIOD! Remember that!
Ubisoft HAS done some "good" things LONG ago. Ironically, I cannot think of a single "good" thing Nexon has ever done, lol...
But alas.
Point is - you CANNOT go all "this guy has done a ton of bad, BUT, he has donated these piles of money to charities, so I think we should FORGIVE HIM, because I THINK the good outweights the bad". That is just STOOPID and ass backwards logic!
A LOT of ppl terminally online seem to subscribe to this EXACT logic unfortuantelly.
Like for example they are now actively defending any and all influencers, blindly fanboying them, for example "Mr totally-NOT-deserving-to-be-name who has paid view-botted subscription numbers and is being actively investigated for FRAUD".
It's by this very logic that by an exaggerated example we could "argue" that "a certain man with a characteristic mustache - IF he would donate 10 bazillion gold bars to charity, his very merciless orders and the following deeds of his underlings should be FORGIVEN".
Like, WHAT.
NO?!
It's not a freaking scale!

There isn't a SINGLE "perfect" gamedev entity in the world.
Blindly hating on an company / person / entity, is just as STUPID and DERANGED as blindly fanboying. NEITHER should EVER be done by INTELLIGENT beings!
And doing this WITHOUT RESEARCH is just an excercise in brain rot!

Eg people who are BLINDLY HATING 'Blizzard', while they cannot fathom "Activision-Blizzard" is an umbrella corp, but A LOT of decisions within Blizzard were silently FORCED by Activision execs. Also those haters cannot possibly understand that the company NAME does not change, but PEOPLE do - and so eg Blizzard of 1998 when they made Starcraft is NOT THE SAME as the Blizzard who released Diablo 4 in unfinished state MONTHS earlier than it SHOULD have been.
People get hired, people get fired.
There is BARELY ANYONE in this industry as a WHOLE who worked in any ONE gamedev company for more than 10 years straight.
Developers change, while the company name doesn't.

It is important to recognise that it's the PEOPLE who make games, who then get stomped and marginalised into game credits by nameless corpos with a "name".
Blizzard for example started as a loved company, then got ingested by Activision and things slowly started going south.
And now they are owned by Microsoft... so that's "fun" ( as in: it will get WAY WORSE, mark my words, Microsoft has Midas touch ).

The way it works in this industry is that for VAST MAJORITY of entities and developers - you can't just point a finger and say "I LOVE Blizzard, they made this and that game which was FANTASTIC, so I will forgive them their blunders later on!" or "booooo! Diablo 4 was in TRASH STATE on launch! Let's hate Blizzard FOREVER!".
It's >> REDACTED << approach!

The way you should go about this ( judgement ) is:
"
these specific named developers made StarCraft, which I loved, those other specific devs made this or that other Blizz game, and then one day Bobby Kotick reached his greedy hands and FORCED FROM UPSTREAM things those many developers would never agree to, but they couldn't oppose the things or they would get "walk papers".
"
HATE individual SPECIFIC people.

When you cross-reference "the good things" in the industry, or "the bad things" in the industry, internally, you'd quickly see overlapping developers getting fired / hired between studios, and it suddenly starts making sense.

Some very specific "people up top" drifted around various CEO positions over the years, and they leave "a paper trail of stink" in some cases.

You as a gamer, cannot let "the internet" or "the collective pseudo-hive-mind zombie collective of humanity with zero criticial thinking skills but loud mouths" spoil your judgement.
You need to be BETTER THAN THAT!
You go do your research every time!


But make no mistake: NEXON IS bad. As a whole. PERIOD. It's one of those "select few" instances of gamedev companies that contribute pretty much NOTHING good, and are BAD in FULL :S
Ubisoft meanwhile, is this "live long enough to become a villain" example, and they are quadrupling down on it.
Not worth buying their things, NO MATTER how good graphics or gameplay may look like. It's just not worth it.


At the end of the day - RESEARCH is KEY.

Do your due dilligence, OR PAY THE PRICE!
Decisions in real life are way more impactful than any side quest in any game ever can be. Because the reality is here and now, you cannot rollback to a previous save!
You either do your research, or you reap what you sow!

This applies to ANY game out there, regardless of company.
There's just SO MUCH totally worthless but "ooh, shiny! NICE GRAPHICS. Beeeeebws! Yeah. MICROTRANSACTIONS, golden skins, wooohooo! FREE TO PLAY, yeah!" games out there right now - and most of society sadly falls for this harder than ever before! :(

I'm sorry for the mini rant. But like... Please, guys and girls, be INTELLIGENT.
Crying post factum and regretting things does not help :/
You gotta be smart enough to recognise and avoid things in advance! ;)

NEVER GIVE UP!



( edit: fixing the dang typos, Im tired :S )

guess i'm stuck with X-D and SG, until,SG2.