The launcher is made by 2k and causes problems in a lot of the games they publish, Firaxis has nothing to do with the launcher and won't be able to ever do anything about it.

You must have missed all the articles and discussions out there urging everyone to disable the launcher before they start playing the game. Your saves are not gone either, they got moved around into a different folder and you should be able to restore them once you find them.

I think it might be Denuvo doing this when it sees the launcher has been disabled. Denuvo is another cause for issues in this game.

use dx11 thats how i fixed mine

OK, i did manage to find my saves and restore them, i don't know why the game created a new instance and save folder, but i just deleted that and restored the old one. The fixes i made did manage to increase performance by a large margin, i'd say it's running at about 80-90% now, minor lag and stuttering in places but not as common as it was. 5 minute loading screens are now about 1-2 mins. Much better.

All settings turned to low. DX 11 on. Nvidia settings performance enhances. Executable set to run in admin mode and disable fullscreen optimisations. Fullscreen set in game settings (not borderless). I think that's about it.

My launcher seems to kill itself when it launches the game anyway, so i don't see why that would be an issue anymore, as long as it's not running in the background. Also, i have no idea what Denuvo is. How can i disable that?

You should disable the launcher. It helps just google it there are reputable sites with walk throughs.

Originally posted by Skurfa:

What the hell is wrong with this game? My PC has never struggled so bad to play a game, constant lag and stuttering, even on lowest settings. So i tried a few tweaks to try to get better performance,

i put -fullscreen in launch options on steam, changed a few settings in 'manage 3d settings' in nvidia control panel to prefer performance, and i enable run in admin mode and disable fullscreen optimizations. That is all i changed. Now the game didn't launch, pressing play on the launcher just kept relaunching the launcher and not the game. Wtf?

So i tried skipping the launcher entirely, by launching with the command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Marvel's Midnight Suns\MidnightSuns\Binaries\Win64\MidnightSuns-Win64-Shipping.exe" %command%

This launched the game, but now there's no load game option. So i rolled back all these changes and just launched normally and it seems my game data has gone. How is this even possible?? I have cloud saves on.

Why does everyone need their own launcher now? The launcher doesn't even have any launch options, and trying to skip it or manually optimize the game just causes more problems, God this thing is such a mess. I expected more from Firaxis.

I'm sorry, but you went and messed with a ton of settings, and now you're blaming the game? You made bad decisions, live with them.

Originally posted by Niliu:

Originally posted by Skurfa:

What the hell is wrong with this game? My PC has never struggled so bad to play a game, constant lag and stuttering, even on lowest settings. So i tried a few tweaks to try to get better performance,

i put -fullscreen in launch options on steam, changed a few settings in 'manage 3d settings' in nvidia control panel to prefer performance, and i enable run in admin mode and disable fullscreen optimizations. That is all i changed. Now the game didn't launch, pressing play on the launcher just kept relaunching the launcher and not the game. Wtf?

So i tried skipping the launcher entirely, by launching with the command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Marvel's Midnight Suns\MidnightSuns\Binaries\Win64\MidnightSuns-Win64-Shipping.exe" %command%

This launched the game, but now there's no load game option. So i rolled back all these changes and just launched normally and it seems my game data has gone. How is this even possible?? I have cloud saves on.

Why does everyone need their own launcher now? The launcher doesn't even have any launch options, and trying to skip it or manually optimize the game just causes more problems, God this thing is such a mess. I expected more from Firaxis.

I'm sorry, but you went and messed with a ton of settings, and now you're blaming the game? You made bad decisions, live with them.

Tell me your tech illiterate without telling me your tech illiterate.
The settings i changed should not have caused the issues that they did. the general consensus is that the game is not well optimized, especially for lower end on the spectrum, even when they are matching or above the 'recommended' (not minimum) system requirements, like mine are.

Regardless, the settings i changed did eventually fix much of the issues i was having. The damned launcher was just making things behave weirdly. So you can spare me the unhelpful, snarky, condescending attitude. It doesn't make you look cool or clever, just like a fool.

Originally posted by Skurfa:

Originally posted by Niliu:

I'm sorry, but you went and messed with a ton of settings, and now you're blaming the game? You made bad decisions, live with them.

Tell me your tech illiterate without telling me your tech illiterate.
The settings i changed should not have caused the issues that they did. the general consensus is that the game is not well optimized, especially for lower end on the spectrum, even when they are matching or above the 'recommended' (not minimum) system requirements, like mine are.

Regardless, the settings i changed did eventually fix much of the issues i was having. The damned launcher was just making things behave weirdly. So you can spare me the unhelpful, snarky, condescending attitude. It doesn't make you look cool or clever, just like a fool.

Ooo, a few people agreed with you, ergo that's general consensus?

I have a degree in IT, so I'm far more literate than some gamer bro. 99% of the issues on people's machines are caused by the stupid things they do with them. You already admitted to screwing around with settings, so you have your answer.

The simplest answer is usually the right one. The simplest answer here, is that you messed up.

Originally posted by Niliu:

Originally posted by Skurfa:

Tell me your tech illiterate without telling me your tech illiterate.
The settings i changed should not have caused the issues that they did. the general consensus is that the game is not well optimized, especially for lower end on the spectrum, even when they are matching or above the 'recommended' (not minimum) system requirements, like mine are.

Regardless, the settings i changed did eventually fix much of the issues i was having. The damned launcher was just making things behave weirdly. So you can spare me the unhelpful, snarky, condescending attitude. It doesn't make you look cool or clever, just like a fool.

Ooo, a few people agreed with you, ergo that's general consensus?

I have a degree in IT, so I'm far more literate than some gamer bro. 99% of the issues on people's machines are caused by the stupid things they do with them. You already admitted to screwing around with settings, so you have your answer.

The simplest answer is usually the right one. The simplest answer here, is that you messed up.

Listen Kiddo, i'm not interested in hearing you stroke your own ego. For someone with an alleged degree in IT, saying things like "Oh you messed with settings and now it doesn't work" is the dumbest comment, when i specifically said which settings i changed, and you ought to know exactly how they would result in what they did and did not, it's not bloody rocket science. Did you even offer an explanation to why those errors were happening? No, because you don't know what you're bloody talking about, you've just come to the forums to puff out your chest and talk ♥♥♥♥, despite the fact the changes i made DID fix the issues i was having with the game, and constantly overlooking this fact as well as the 2k launcher which everyone pretty much agrees is a buggy piece of ♥♥♥♥. The response and critique on this has been overwhelming, it's not just a 'few' people, just spend 5 seconds on google or even in the steam forums to prove this to yourself.

Seriously, you've gone from sounding like a fool, to now a fool AND a bullshitter. Just stop digging yourself this hole, it's embarrassing. I fixed my issues, the changes worked, the launcher is ♥♥♥♥♥♥, that's all there is to it. End of story. Move on and go troll someone else. Or perhaps go offer your acute IT expertise to someone in need instead of being snarky and unhelpful on steam forums. Grow the f up. I'm done here.

This was the top search result when I searched for save issues with this particular game, and after much searching, I found an additional place where the files exist:
Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Marvel's Midnight Suns\MidnightSuns\Binaries\Win64\Marvel's Midnight Suns\Saved_Steam_<user-id>\

<user-id> is your profile's "steamID64" number value

For some reason after upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11, the game stopped looking at save data there and instead saved blank/new profile & save game info here instead:
%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Marvel's Midnight Suns\Saved_Steam_<user-id>\

This scared me with 20 hours in! So I copied files from the deep binaries folder to a backup location, then to the user profile folder, and it worked! I had Steam cloud saves enabled all along, so I have no idea why those didn't recover my saves that I found from the prior folder. So as long as people have another form of save backup, they may want to disable cloud saves for the game at least for a while if they're concerned about these weird issues happening with their game.