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Why is the German tank tree no good?
Historically I heard German tanks were really good, is it because of Russian dev team?
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It is good bot not every tank or BR maybe.
İlk olarak Jezza tarafından gönderildi:
Historically I heard German tanks were really good, is it because of Russian dev team?
It's not because of the devs, it's because of balancing. Historically speaking, the Tiger H1 would face off against the T-34(1942) in Kursk, but the BR makes this balanced. 75mm Shermans often fought Tiger II (H) and Jagdtigers
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Tigers, Panthers and Leopard 2's are among the best tanks in the game at their respective br's

Not to mention stuff like the Wiesel or Begleit, you have to actively try to perform bad in some of their tanks
En son xCrossFaith tarafından düzenlendi; 24 Ara @ 18:18
The German tree is one of the strongest one of the game. If you struggle with it, it's because you don't play it the right way and it is a problem that will sort itself out by itself if you continue to play, learn about enemy weak spots, learn the maps and use tactics that are appropriate to use the strengths of that tree and compensates for its weaknesses.

By example, German tanks and TDs are meant for sniping and stay at range. So, if you try to brawl with their terrible turret rotation speed and light side armor, you're going to be punished hard. If you go on in frontal attacks driving a Tiger I and you don't angle your armor, experienced players are going to send you back to the hangar with one shot of their US 76mm guns or soviet 85mm guns.
Historically forgot the Fantasy Propaganda of German OP Tanks! Yeah of Course German have Interesting New Technology Tanks and Planes! But only few of them Worked and few of Crew Members are Ace of Spade! Most of them are "Broken" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the Aliied Forces! etc... And WT are a GAME ! ALL IN THIS GAME IS A POINT & CLICK ARCADE EGO Esport Shooter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! FOR FAST & EASY FUN!

I make also the mistake to Study this Game! And this Big of Historically BlaBlaBla! And i'm End in Frustreted Sitution! Now i see this as a Only @ Big Fun Circus Maximus Clown Game! And i have FUN! It`s a Game! Nothing is here Historicall Correct!
En son Cetus Tex tarafından düzenlendi; 21 saat önce
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İlk olarak Jezza tarafından gönderildi:
Historically I heard German tanks were really good, is it because of Russian dev team?
It's not because of the devs, it's because of balancing. Historically speaking, the Tiger H1 would face off against the T-34(1942) in Kursk, but the BR makes this balanced. 75mm Shermans often fought Tiger II (H) and Jagdtigers
I can not imagine having to deal with a Jagdtiger while driving a M4 Sherman with a sorry ass 75mm gun in WW2.

Didn't a WW2 US Army tank veteran say he had to be within 400 or 800 yards to penetrate the side of a Tiger 1, with his 75mm?
@ you dont read and understood nothing! this game is a game! okay! your 400 or 800 m change nothing! jesus christ!
The Germany tech tree is excellent. Panthers, Leopard 1s and Leopard 2s. Wonderful tanks!
WT have a maybe 50%& of a Realistic Simulator! or else...
I assume this is a bait.

First of all, historically, German tanks were overrated.

Second of all, for a game like this to work you need to have a balance, and balance is brought by you with the use of a Battle Rating system. Even if two tanks are from the same era and faced each other constantly but one is superior in performance, it will have a higher BR to fight those that match the characteristics, regardless of what would be the realistic "match" in real life during, let's say, 1944.

It wouldn't make sense to make a game in which for example a Tiger was fighting, let's say, Japanese tanks (which were much smaller, simpler and much less powerful and were basically following the design principles from the start of the war) compared to Germans that had much more experience in tank design and understood that the priority was to make a better, more armored and with a much bigger gun tank.

Would you play a game in which you use a Ho-Ro against a Tiger II? Exactly. That's why the use of BR's (Battle Rating) allows all players to use vehicles that are similar in performance.

See it this way: Russians developed jets that were mostly outdated (compared to NATO capabilities) so it wouldn't make much sense to put a modernized Mig-21 against an F-15, right? (This is true to this day, some nations, like India, still use Mig-21's, does that mean they should face much better jets just because USA had F-15E's by the same era?).
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I assume this is a bait.

The reason a lot of people think this is because once you hit Tier 3 you basically can't easily pen the Sherman or American tanks head on from just a shell to the turret.

People are lied to that German tanks are snipers, and they can be, but you have to have developed really decent aim and know what you just straight up will never pen. The pen numbers just aren't consistent against Shermans. The T34 is just straight up "don't shoot or show your location against" for almost all German tanks in the lineup against it. If you can't barrel them, and you miss? You're dead. If I am in my Sla 16 and see a T34 my plan is to either hide or barrel it and then shoot out both tracks then sideline it or let it repair and mark it.

German lineup is fine.
If you're struggling with Germany i'd just uninstall the game now tbh
Oh boy, the german tech tree is one of the best in the game with some really fantastic tanks.
When you play germany, most of the times low level teammates are the problem.
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I can not imagine having to deal with a Jagdtiger while driving a M4 Sherman with a sorry ass 75mm gun in WW2.

Didn't a WW2 US Army tank veteran say he had to be within 400 or 800 yards to penetrate the side of a Tiger 1, with his 75mm?
That's where buttonholing (shooting the driver's port) became popular. Unfortunately, Gaijin refuses to fix the driver's ports to make them even remotely realistic, because they like the current volumetric system, and don't want to fix the armor models to work right with it.
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