Tom Clancy's The Division 2

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"New-ish" Which one to buy?
TL:DR - - I'll try to keep this brief (sorry if it ends up being long) but in a jiffy, just which one should I "buy"/play? Division 1 or 2? (I figured come to the 2 forums/discussions to ask, simply because it's the "newest", so, possibly "more" players etc.).


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a LONGER, more in depth question (and to help get a "better" answer) or description is below.

I'm not completely "new" to "The Division", I played one of those "timed" trial periods for the 1st one.

So, My main thing, is i'm not really trying to do Multiplayer (and YES, i'm AWARE this game is heavily focused on it, but "I" was personally able to play the game solo and have fun during my "timed" trial experience.) and personally I think the story is garbage (one of the "ONLY" arguments I ever really see being mentioned as to why you shouldn't "skip" to warlords etc.) I'm really only interested in playing solo and being in NYC. I thought the "area" in the first one was absolutely awesome (and imho, WHY they went back to it in D2) Washington DC, sadly, just does nothing for me. the settling alone, is already boring, mixed with a story IDC about. it's hard for me to see "why" I would even bother with The Division 2.

but it's "WHY" I AM here. I've only done part 1. I have no idea if 2 is any "better" by that, I simply mean, with many other games, the "next" installment, generally adds stuff, makes the mechanics better, better graphics etc.

So, seeing as NYC "IS" in part 2 and it looks like YOU "CAN" skip all of the DC stuff and just head straight into NYC. that's more so of my question.

from a single player perspective, who doesn't care about the story, and just wants to play in NYC, is it even worth getting 2? or just sticking with 1, since 1's entire game is focused on NYC not just an "expansion".

I have no idea how "big" D2's NYC is (compared to part 1, or if just literally the same) or if 2 idk just added better mechanics and quality of life kinda stuff. aka 2 may just be the better game etc. terms of mechanics and graphics and all that.

I figured ask the "community" who plays the actual games.

should I buy the division 1? or does 2 add more and it's a better game and the NYC stuff is pretty much what you're getting in 1 just with again, better mechanics and all that stuff.

thanks for any information. again, sorry if i made it long, i just wanted to explain what "I'm" personally looking for in the game, so that would help people better say, skip this, pick that over that etc.

thx again for any and all input <3 :BloodRayne:
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Buy part 1 if you want to go through the story and immerse yourself in the atmosphere (and also run around the subway and Survival). I advise you to collect all the finds (audio / video) - they are great. But part 1 has almost no online, and global events are disabled (and it is not known whether they will work again).
Well, part 2 is for a long game, finding comrades and jointly completing raids and other activities including pvp.

TD1 and TD2 - significantly differ in atmosphere, visually, and (partially) gameplay, and therefore there will be no sense of deja vu (with the exception of ttk :winter2019tiredyul: ).
Div 1 - ambience, story
Div 2 - gameplay, online player count (endgame=more players)
Imo get Div 2
Thanks for Both of the responses I got from @h1ghpr13st and @... Sadness.exe (Also to anyone else who cares to share in the future).

It looks like Division 1 is what "I'm" looking for then. I know what I wrote was long (hence the TL:DR stuff) but yah, i'm not interested in story or playing with others (at all). the story imho isn't that great (just me) and I prefer to play solo, unbothered. So Div 1 seems, like everything i'm looking for. aimed at more so solo play (cause a lot of the multiplayer stuff is disabled or whatever anyways) and to just idk run around NYC. what "drew" me into this game (or franchise if you will) when I did the trial, was purely the atmosphere. I think they nailed NYC in a chaotic fashion pretty well. n just walking around, idk, was cool. I'd have enough fun, to just explore NYC (solo) and just enjoy whatever aspects of the game i'm able to then.

I was more so afraid, that, getting 1, maybe i'd miss out on idk just more "updated" stuff. things maybe they added into div 2 that weren't in 1. but as i'm not into the "story", I def don't want to play with anyone and the setting for div 2 (DC) does nothing for me.

I asked this question, just so I wouldn't "waste" money if you will, I just wanted to buy "one" and didn't know if 2's NYC "DLC" and whatever upgrades it has vs one would be worth it but honestly what @... Sadness.exe said is pretty much what I was looking for.

Seems like Div 2 DOES have stuff that Div 1 didn't have (game play mechanics etc.) but at the end of the day. it def seems like Div 2 is if you want more of that story and multiplayer factor, div 1 is if you want to just immerse yourself in NYC and go solo etc.

So Div 1 for me. Thx again for all the input and any other future input. I "may" consider buying part 2 down the lines but atm, it just seems like div 1 is what i'm looking. Just wanna do NYC solo, pretty much. atmosphere and the whole idk looter shooter stuff, that was enough for me. story....ehhh, playing with others, not my thing, never will be my thing lol so, aside from "installment updates" (aka what the next installment of a franchise gets etc.) I don't think I'm "missing" out on anything with div 2, as it won't do anything for me. I wouldn't even do the DC aspect (would just skip straight to NYC DLC) n again, not into the story or playing with others.

it's just one of those things that maybe i'll check out div 2 on a sale or something but "one" to buy like over the other, i'm going with Div 1 for now.

Thx again for all the feedback and advice! <3 :BloodRayne:
Certain mission is for coop only. Like raid and incursion for exclusive exotic items.
Última alteração por Annihilator; Há 12 horas
Don't get any of it full price.
Originalmente postado por Annihilator:
Certain mission is for coop only. Like raid and incursion for exclusive exotic items.
does this apply to both games? or is this more focused on Div 2 since it's more multiplayer focused etc. idk one comment above said most of the stuff in div 1 is solo and most of the "multiplayer" aspects of Div 1 are non existent. where I am also aware this is a "looter shooter" (aka, rare gun drops/loot etc.) as I've mentioned before, I guess I'm "interested" in this game/franchise for a lot of other reasons than most other players (who like this franchise)but i'll be absolutely "fine" without idk "EPIC LEGENDARY ULTIMATE MAX RARE GUN" etc. lol

full circle, (using div 1 as the example cause i feel that's what i'm going with still) I'm just interested in running around a destroyed NYC solo. long as the "main" game (if you will) can be played and "enjoyed" solo (which I have read, it's do-able, the whole "build" stuff doesn't really matter unless you trying to PvP etc.) that's truly all I really care about.

I did "try" this game on a trial and to be fair (just MY opinion) the story is pretty garbage. I mean aye, to each their own, and if others (again, the people who "like" this franchise, again, i'm NEW.) enjoy it. power to them. it's just why Div 2 does even "less" for me. you take a story I already don't care about and don't find interesting and now put it into a place i don't care about or find interesting (DC) you already lost me before the game even came out lol

that's just how "I" feel lol

but yah, i'm aware I may not be able to "100%" the game, or get like all the "amazing rare" guns/loot. i'll Live with that. my "goal" truly is just atmosphere and immersion. i'm prob going to skip whatever cut-scenes you can (cause again, just not interested in the "story") and as long as I can walk around, keep "progressing" in the game, eventually "beat" the "story" etc. and do that all "solo" all I really want.

it's like if all of Div 1 multi was gone and it was 100% now "only" an offline like solo game, I wouldn't even be here asking questions. lol

I'm coming from a free trial, complete darkness of what div 2 holds (and why i said i'm AWARE there is a NYC DLC in div 2 and you can SKIP right to it etc, but again, is it even as "big" as the first? or merely a DLC they gave more so to the Div 2 players for "end game" stuff etc.) and it's why I'm here asking "players" what they think I should get, based on what I'm looking for.

it looks like both games have their strong points and so far, it just looks like Div 1 is "aimed" at what i'm looking for more. screw the story, just NYC atmosphere and solo play. as simple as i can keep it. multiplayer does nothing for me, DC does nothing for me, and the story, as i said before i personally don't think it's good.

I'm here for the NYC atmosphere (that i def believe they nailed, I mean look, i don't even care about anything else BUT that, someone completely from the "outside" of this franchise, that's what "drew me in" because that's how good they pulled it off) to play in that atmosphere alone and just enjoy the game and the atmosphere etc at my own pace and without idk, other idiots, generally why i "Don't" play with others.

others may "feel" playing with other people "adds" to their experience. it just does the complete opposite for me.

dead by daylight is a GREAT example (i'll be brief, as it's unrelated to this but just to give my example) I ONLY play the "mobile" version of that game and it's because it's the ONLY version that "has" BOTS! it's pretty sad, that after all these years, they have never been able to add bots into the "main" games. lol I NEVER even TOUCHED those games, why? PEOPLE! comes to mobile, bots, man, i have such a blast playing that game.

to each their own, but simply, for me and my experiences 9/10 times playing with others, will just "ruin" whatever experience the game was trying to do (for me at least). i've never played a "multiplayer" game that "added" to the experience, is all i'm saying. aka playing games solo, is AMAZING, cause i can just do whatever "I" want, my pace etc. the second you add anyone else to that mix (even co-op games, before people think i'm just crying over PvP stuff, yah, no, i don't even do co-op stuff, i just don't like to play with other people PERIOD) that "experience" drastically changes and as i'm saying, i'm glad OTHER PEOPLE get idk "better" experiences (aka the game becomes "Better" than when they were doing solo stuff etc, look at WoW as an example, MANY people will tell you the "fun" in that game is raiding with others and PvPing etc, I completely beg to differ lol) but man my "experiences" just get ruined, makes me end up hating a game (that I prob would have enjoyed without playing with others etc.) and uninstalling it.

to each their own, I just prefer solo play. but thanks for that input, I don't think i'll be too bothered about the loot i get etc. long as it is always enough to keep progressing in the game, i'll live without the super rare exotic stuff. :BloodRayne:
Originalmente postado por PoisonLemon:
Don't get any of it full price.
oh I plan to still wait for a sale. if you look at the discussions (especially in div 1) they are already talking about dropping the game. which is expected and usually inevitable (like shutting servers down or whatever) but as long as you can still do the "solo" player aspects of it all. again, that's all I really care about, but I def wouldn't buy it at "full" price because idk, i'm not even trying to "fully" experience the game lol (aka the multiplayer stuff etc) as one post mentioned a lot of the multiplayer stuff in division 1 already got removed or whatever the case but just that it's "more" solo than multiplayer based anyways?

aye, if they completely shut down all the "multiplayer" aspects of Div 1 but you're still able to run through it solo etc. i'm good. i'll def still buy it but i'm def still waiting for a sale. it's why I'm here asking you all (owners of the games and who like the franchise etc) what I should get lol. cause i'm def not in any rush. going to take all and any feedback I can get, then once sales come around, make my choice.

so far, based on comments etc. it just seems like Div 1 is up my alley though.
Div 2 just keeps drifting off further and further away from my "interest" radar lol :BloodRayne:
Originalmente postado por PoisonLemon:
Don't get any of it full price.
legit

wait for discounted sale, which happens every now and then, I think it's on sale right now on Epic Games Store
Última alteração por h1ghpr13st; Há 11 horas
I Just Picked the game up on Ubistore. it was on sale there as well.

I would have liked to have it in my steam library for convenience but what can you do, so many "stores" now and sales etc. I just don't have epic game store or whatever and it's one "less" thing I ever have to sign up for, create an account for etc and just for one game. at least I have a few games on my Ubisoft account.

So, for anyone Looking for Div 1 or 2 (like I was) check out Epic Game Store as mentioned above or the Ubistore. it's on sale on both.

Thx again everyone for the help/input. i'm off to play this wonderful game and survive in a chaotic NYC lol.

Perhaps, in the future i'll visit Div 2, just atm, what's been said about it etc. I just feel Div 1 is what i'm looking for but you never know, could end up wanting more after I beat it etc.

Thx again for all the inputs, Happy Holidays to you all <3 :BloodRayne:
Ankua Há 6 horas 
I would have picked up two rather than one. Ubi is having issues solving bugs in one recently. There are people having more and more issues without a word from Ubi.

Two is where more people play at. The next dlc for two is scheduled for the first half of 2025. You have way more build variety in two than one. I have 1k hours in one 4k hours in two.

That should tell you something.
Originalmente postado por Ankua:
I would have picked up two rather than one. Ubi is having issues solving bugs in one recently. There are people having more and more issues without a word from Ubi.

Two is where more people play at. The next dlc for two is scheduled for the first half of 2025. You have way more build variety in two than one. I have 1k hours in one 4k hours in two.

That should tell you something.

It tells me, exactly what the other comments have told me and why I still stand with "1" being the better option for "myself".

2 probably "works" for you because you "want" to play with others.

take into account all the other stuff mentioned (DC being the setting, the story, maybe you're someone who actually cares about that stuff etc) and that's probably "why" 2 "works" for you or why "you" would have rather picked 2 up over 1.

So far, I haven't encountered any "bugs" myself (none that are game breaking at least) and def not stuff I've seen in the discussion thread as well (like not being able to take damage or whatever. i'm def taking damage lol)

everyone has "something" they idk "focus" on. n as many have mentioned. the "Fact" that MOST (if not all) the "multiplayer stuff" is gone or going to be gone in the div 1. literally what "I'm" looking for.

I'm not trying to play with people, I don't really care about "new" content (i'm not into the DC area and I would literally be "skipping" that entire thing and heading straight to NYC) my whole, pick 1 or 2, was based purely on if 2's NYC DLC was "worth" it. in terms of, most game, when they get a "new" installment (aka 1 to 2) they generally get "updates" to the GAME itself. I just wanted to know if i'd be "missing" mechanic stuff, but as many have mentioned, they aren't "worlds" apart. a few differences but again, for what i'm looking for (solo play in NYC as the focus) 1 still pretty much hits "every" thing I want. where 2, it has probably what? just better gameplay mechanics and simply because it's obv part 2, they HAD time to "upgrade" the game etc.

I feel like "that" is the only "aspect" "i'm" missing out on. cause so far div 1 is exactly what i'm looking for. NYC (from the start) skipping pretty much all the story (whatever allows me to skip through etc.) and solo, not really being "bothered" by anyone. just able to enjoy the "game".

n again, i couldn't tell you jack shh about the "story" (I still to this day have NO IDEA what this "franchise" is about, nor do I personally care. it's not what drew "me" into it etc.) and i'm enjoying the game very much.

had a blast playing the timed trial and just didn't know if I should continue with it (div 1) or head over to div 2 because maybe the NYC DLC was just as big (or bigger) than div 1's NYC (but it seems smaller and more so just like an "end game" thing created for people who beat the game to, well, do more.) and the updates to the game itself were worth the "move" but idk, after a bunch of feedback from this thread, watching videos and the timed trial i did have with Div 1. it's what I went with.

as I said, maybe in the future. if I "care" to play with others, maybe i'll give div 2 a try. just sadly. it doesn't do anything for "me". i don't care about the story, DC sucks, I doubt the NYC "DLC" is as "IMMERSIVE" as an entire game based in NYC (Div 1) rather than just an "expansion" etc (I COULD be wrong, again I know NOTHING about div 2 aside form what's been told to me) I'm not trying to play with people, be it co-op or PvP, it has nothing to do with being a "cry baby" because you keep getting "beat", not at all, I've played MANY "Co-op" games where the "experience" still gets "ruined" (again, MY opinion and just what "I" have personally encountered, other people have a good time playing with others? power to them, don't stop. i'm not hating, simply keep to myself) when you play with others. it's just something, I truthfully avoid.

idc if it's "co-op" or "PvP" or "PvE" or "PvPvE", if i Still have the "OPTION" to play/pick solo. I don't even "consider" the other options.

as I even mentioned in one of my posts, look at Dead by daylight. I literally avoided that game for years, because there simply was no bots (still aren't in the MAIN games) it wasn't until mobile came out, where they HAVE bots, where i was able to finally try dead by daylight, because before that. it was a "multiplayer" only game (aka forced you to do that or you can't play) I chose the ladder, for years. simply because i do not like to play with people.

I play dead by daylight "mobile" daily. it's a great game, a BLAST. i have nothing but good things to say about that game, guess what? never played that game with a SINGLE PERSON!

thanks to mobile and bots, people like "me" were actually able to just "enjoy" a GAME they wanted to play.

it's life. we're all different and no hate on anyone that enjoys playing games with others etc.

i just don't get why when it's the "flip side" it's like some issue. some people like to play games solo, even games that are "focused" on multiplayer, I mean it doesn't change anything, some people still want to "play" alone. hence BOTS. idk. just saying. it's as simple as that though.

thanks for the feedback and again maybe someday i'll check out Div 2 but for now. i'm on DIv 1 and no issues....yet. again, everyone is different (like rigs wise etc) so I have no idea what's going on for others, or if maybe "bugs" will start happening the more I progress in the game, but "so far" so good.

enjoying the game very much <3 :BloodRayne:
Lol how much you have writed? :D in any cases the division 1 have certain mission in coop like incursion if i not remember bad, i not playng it from over 5 years, but for the rest of the game is solo. Honestly these games is more enjoyable with coop. I mean incentivate to coop. Me too i prefer coop because solo is boring.
Originalmente postado por Annihilator:
Lol how much you have writed? :D in any cases the division 1 have certain mission in coop like incursion if i not remember bad, i not playng it from over 5 years, but for the rest of the game is solo. Honestly these games is more enjoyable with coop. I mean incentivate to coop. Me too i prefer coop because solo is boring.
Sometimes a lot, sometimes less :P

It's just there, for whoever "wants" to read. you don't have to. ;)

but yes, this is why I went with Div 1 as another used mentioned, it's more focused (atm) on solo play (which is what i'm looking for) because a lot of the multiplayer stuff (as mentioned) like the incursion stuff has been disabled.

I love it ^_^ <3 having a blast so far and haven't been bothered by anyone. map is just absolutely gorgeous. I still have no idea what this game is about, nor do I care, they just def nailed the NYC atmosphere and i'm truly just enjoying the game, exploring NYC (at MY own pace) and just taking it all in.

feels, sometimes, like it's idk, it's own isolated virtual world.
The Little things even the AI will do. idk, just the "little" details in the game even just ass so much to the atmosphere of the game.

def having a blast with it and I would recommend The Div 1 for anyone else, that's at least in the same ballpark as me. don't care about the story? don't want to play with others? just want to explore NYC at your own pace and idk just play the "game" itself. Division 1 all day. it's less idk "fluff".

don't get me wrong, the fluff is there if you want it (the "loot", the "story" etc.) but it's just def not as "much".

you can 100% just jump into this game and play it and still have a good time (imho)

as, others have mentioned, if you want to play with people and Idk just want a more "updated" game that's going to have idk more "recent" content, i'd def say check out div 2 then as well. This Thread was just simply to maybe shed some light on another player out there like me.

who is debating on which one to get (if only one to pick etc.) both are great games, but they both def (especially now, with many multiplayer features gone from div 1) cater to different crowds. n if you're looking to just enjoy exploring NYC solo, div 1 is the way to go. you want to play with more people, check out another area (DC), more content etc. try out div 2. either way. the franchise just seems solid.

n i'm finally happy to be apart of it and own The Div 1 at least. very cool game, that I def missed out on (obv when it was more relevant) but just glad to have stumbled across it and now a proud owner of it ^_^ :BloodRayne:
Originalmente postado por Annihilator:
Honestly these games is more enjoyable with coop. I mean incentivate to coop. Me too i prefer coop because solo is boring.
Only people that don't like playing solo, ever actually say this. The game is fantastic for solo players.
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Originalmente postado por Annihilator:
Lol how much you have writed? :D in any cases the division 1 have certain mission in coop like incursion if i not remember bad, i not playng it from over 5 years, but for the rest of the game is solo. Honestly these games is more enjoyable with coop. I mean incentivate to coop. Me too i prefer coop because solo is boring.
Sometimes a lot, sometimes less :P

It's just there, for whoever "wants" to read. you don't have to. ;)

but yes, this is why I went with Div 1 as another used mentioned, it's more focused (atm) on solo play (which is what i'm looking for) because a lot of the multiplayer stuff (as mentioned) like the incursion stuff has been disabled.

I love it ^_^ <3 having a blast so far and haven't been bothered by anyone. map is just absolutely gorgeous. I still have no idea what this game is about, nor do I care, they just def nailed the NYC atmosphere and i'm truly just enjoying the game, exploring NYC (at MY own pace) and just taking it all in.

feels, sometimes, like it's idk, it's own isolated virtual world.
The Little things even the AI will do. idk, just the "little" details in the game even just ass so much to the atmosphere of the game.

def having a blast with it and I would recommend The Div 1 for anyone else, that's at least in the same ballpark as me. don't care about the story? don't want to play with others? just want to explore NYC at your own pace and idk just play the "game" itself. Division 1 all day. it's less idk "fluff".

don't get me wrong, the fluff is there if you want it (the "loot", the "story" etc.) but it's just def not as "much".

you can 100% just jump into this game and play it and still have a good time (imho)

as, others have mentioned, if you want to play with people and Idk just want a more "updated" game that's going to have idk more "recent" content, i'd def say check out div 2 then as well. This Thread was just simply to maybe shed some light on another player out there like me.

who is debating on which one to get (if only one to pick etc.) both are great games, but they both def (especially now, with many multiplayer features gone from div 1) cater to different crowds. n if you're looking to just enjoy exploring NYC solo, div 1 is the way to go. you want to play with more people, check out another area (DC), more content etc. try out div 2. either way. the franchise just seems solid.

n i'm finally happy to be apart of it and own The Div 1 at least. very cool game, that I def missed out on (obv when it was more relevant) but just glad to have stumbled across it and now a proud owner of it ^_^ :BloodRayne:


Bruh it's a coop game at the end of the day, if you play solo you might not be able to enjoy it fully, I'd suggest you to join a discord group (for both Div 1 & 2) or a clan (for Div 2), plus a good build truly shines in a 4-man group with active damage scaling.
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