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conman 26. mar. kl. 14:10
Why do people like Yukari so much?
edit: wow i have been playing persona 4 for a while now almost at the ending. i should apologize to yukari. rise is so flipping annoying, i hate her. looking back at my play through i no longer despise yukari and i now appreciate her for being a good character. she had a personality outside of being a love interest. still think her social link was boring and went nowhere though.

She was bad to Junpei and was generally an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ most of the time. I did her social link and beat the game was there anything I missed about her character development or am I biased? I understand that they were unpopular in the answer but I perfectly understand why she would act that way after protagonist died
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Her character has a lot more depth than some seem to be able to comprehend, as evident by the amount of people that completely misunderstood her in the Answer. There is like a whole one hour analysis video that explains her character. She is not a robot, she is flawed, but with good reasoning behind her actions. She has some of the best char development in the game and epilogue, it's just not so on the nose as others. People also like her because even tho she can be mean or confrontational, she's still clearly kindhearted and caring. She is the first character to show genuine concern for the protagonist and others.
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Queen Nothing 26. mar. kl. 14:25 
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I like her precisely because she sees what a scumbag Junpei is and treats him as he deserves. Everytime she jabs at him, it's cathartic and lets me tolerate him for a few more hours. If I can't get a Junpei death in the story, I'll at least take Yukari insulting him now and then.
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Evangelion 26. mar. kl. 14:49 
Her character has a lot more depth than some seem to be able to comprehend, as evident by the amount of people that completely misunderstood her in the Answer. There is like a whole one hour analysis video that explains her character. She is not a robot, she is flawed, but with good reasoning behind her actions. She has some of the best char development in the game and epilogue, it's just not so on the nose as others. People also like her because even tho she can be mean or confrontational, she's still clearly kindhearted and caring. She is the first character to show genuine concern for the protagonist and others.
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conman 26. mar. kl. 15:29 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Evangelion:
Her character has a lot more depth than some seem to be able to comprehend, as evident by the amount of people that completely misunderstood her in the Answer. There is like a whole one hour analysis video that explains her character. She is not a robot, she is flawed, but with good reasoning behind her actions. She has some of the best char development in the game and epilogue, it's just not so on the nose as others. People also like her because even tho she can be mean or confrontational, she's still clearly kindhearted and caring. She is the first character to show genuine concern for the protagonist and others.
Thank you for your answer could you link the video ?
conman 26. mar. kl. 15:32 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Queen Nothing:
I like her precisely because she sees what a scumbag Junpei is and treats him as he deserves. Everytime she jabs at him, it's cathartic and lets me tolerate him for a few more hours. If I can't get a Junpei death in the story, I'll at least take Yukari insulting him now and then.
Why do you dislike Junpei? I liked him and enjoyed his presence. Except when he was being horny or being a ♥♥♥♥ to yukari
Lynfinity 26. mar. kl. 15:43 
Oprindeligt skrevet af conman:
She was bad to Junpei and was generally an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ most of the time,
Which is why she spent 90% of Tartarus exploration warming up the bench, in my playthrough :monokuma_DGR:

You want to constantly nag da man, you best believe you're not getting enough experience to join Nyx Annihilation Team
Queen Nothing 26. mar. kl. 16:10 
Oprindeligt skrevet af conman:
Why do you dislike Junpei? I liked him and enjoyed his presence. Except when he was being horny or being a ♥♥♥♥ to yukari
Basically answered your own question with what I more or less said. Girls and women don't want to be around a creep that can be openly sexist (esp. in P3P). Junpei should have died screaming as soon as possible so literally any other character could get scene time, and Chidori would amount to more than a sacrifice for a loser's character development.
Faiyez 26. mar. kl. 16:13 
Junpei is a bro.
Evangelion 27. mar. kl. 0:33 
Oprindeligt skrevet af conman:
Thank you for your answer could you link the video ?
This vid was pretty good and also gets into the Answer part. He also made a vid for several others like the protagonist and aigis in case you’re interested in analysis videos

https://youtu.be/oAloZg9LasA?si=fxV_UxmgzPnQhb_H
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guzcor 27. mar. kl. 20:04 
This video explained Yukari's character, but from a psychological point of view, if you are interested in undertanding her from a professional opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdijPIKysdA
Ivas 28. mar. kl. 0:48 
Yukari can be overly mean sometimes, just like Junpei can be sexist, but Junpei gets Chidori and character progression, just like Yukari. And Yukari IS kind. During the start of the Chidori arc, Yukari was the first one to notice that something strange is happening with Junpei. She's just more subtle in her development than Junpei, for example
Kirioz 28. mar. kl. 8:35 
you're right. Mitsuru is clearly the better option.
Mitsuru: Mature, Red-haired, Sexy, Millionaire, Intelligent,mOmMy VibEs.
Yukari: Good girl, Cliche to the max.
Sidst redigeret af Kirioz; 28. mar. kl. 8:37
Oprindeligt skrevet af Lynfinity:
Oprindeligt skrevet af conman:
She was bad to Junpei and was generally an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ most of the time,
Which is why she spent 90% of Tartarus exploration warming up the bench, in my playthrough :monokuma_DGR:

You want to constantly nag da man, you best believe you're not getting enough experience to join Nyx Annihilation Team

she is literally 1 of the most OP party members, meanwhile I benched Junpei instantly the moment I could, he annoyed the ever living hell out of me.
especially after the train sequence where he out of nowhere gets this "i'm the boss" type of mindset, while under MY leadership we've made it farther in Tartatus than ever before with more experienced members.

then later on he gets this issue again, AFTER apologizing to me already.
then when he finally falls in love, he gets pissy with me again for the SAME reason, screw Junpei, the idiot spend the entire game on the bench, when 1 of my main party members had to leave (for story purposes) I just subbed in anyone but him, granted, he only was lvl 20+ because of the clock tutorial later on.
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ivas:
Yukari can be overly mean sometimes, just like Junpei can be sexist, but Junpei gets Chidori and character progression, just like Yukari. And Yukari IS kind. During the start of the Chidori arc, Yukari was the first one to notice that something strange is happening with Junpei. She's just more subtle in her development than Junpei, for example

it's also that Yukari actually went through a lot of things already at that point.
her mother is basically hopping from ♥♥♥♥ to ♥♥♥♥ and she has very little interaction with her. (as you see in her social link)
while also her father died in an accident already, on top that the entire school is drooling over her, like the moment you first enter the school, you get greeted by someone asking if she got a girlfriend.

VS Junpei who is just an idiot and not exactly smart, constantly makes stupid remarks that you just roll your eyes to.
like that beach moment where he basically forces you to go hunt for a girl, wish you could get the option to skip, since jesus, was it stupid.
Cecire 28. mar. kl. 19:42 
People whine when most of the party members are simps for the main character in Persona. Here you have Junpei, someone good natured who isn't a full on simp and people lose their minds.

Anyway as far as Yukari goes she just has a snarkiness to her that's unusual in a 'main girl' character. It feels toned down in this game compared to the original translation (which may or may not be accurate, I don't know or care, I just know she was more snarky there). I think people are used to female characters complaining more today but at the time it was a fairly rare trait completely divorced from feminism/girl boss stuff. So I think people read that tone differently than what it originally was.

Edit: To put it in perspective, with her past and wanting to stay 'closed' from others if she were an Americanized character from that era it wouldn't be surprising to see her be a goth who isn't actually super into death or metal so much as pretty-girl loner who wants people to mind their business.
Sidst redigeret af Cecire; 28. mar. kl. 19:47
Blue Arrow 28. mar. kl. 20:45 
I agree with everyone else here - she is multifaceted and a complex character. She is heroic and the "it" girl, but harbors a lot of trauma and is slow to trust. She uses sarcasm and mean jabs as defense mechanism.

I can see how she can be overlooked and shoehorned into a typical anime trope of the IT girl, mean girl, Lovers Arcana... etc and I think a lot of people are dismissive of her because of that, as they just look at her personality on the surface but I think if you pay attention to her and try to empathize she has a lot of understandable reasons for the way she acts, in both her good and bad traits. She tries to be a good person, and generally is, but she's human too and has some unhealthy traits as well. She is probably one of the more flushed out characters in the Persona series, in my opinion

Her character development is also greatly expanded in The Answer (Episode Aigis) as well. Again, if you are just looking at the surface I think you'll miss a lot, but her relationship with Mitsuru, who also is pretty defensive, I think is great character development. That pays off (in my opinion) in P4AU where you see a Yukari who is confident and seems more comfortable with herself and her friends.

I do admit I didn't care for Yukari at first, but playing throughout the game(s) and reflecting on her as a character I've come to appreciate and understand her a lot more.

That's my take though. I'm sure others have their opinions that vary. I think most P3 fans just get frustrated by people who try and dismiss her as the popular love-interest girl trope character.
Sidst redigeret af Blue Arrow; 28. mar. kl. 20:49
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