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jose_silveira20 26.10. klo 14.12
Story is very confusing (possible spoiler)
The plot is very confusing for me and I couldn't find any great explanation for this online. Seems the story of the franchise got retcons as well, which doesn't help.

I would appreciate if someone could explain the relationship between Isaac, the Red Marker, and the Hive Mind.

The Red Marker is the cause of the Hive Mind and the necromorphs, so why it manipulates Isaac into returning it to the Aegis VII? If it returns to the planet, it suppresses it's influence on the necromorphs, which explains why the Hive Mind is trying to stop Isaac, but why does it want that? And why is that the thing that creates the necromorphs is also itself the tool that suppresses them? Or is it just that Dr. Kyne wanted it buried so it's waves stayed contained deep underground? If that's the case, it still doesn't explain why it was manipulating them into doing that. I read online that placing it in the planet made it possible to transmit the blueprints for the creation of a new Marker, but then why was the Hive Mind trying to stop Isaac then?
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PJthePlayer 27.10. klo 8.12 
The way I understand it is that the Red Marker, which is a man-made copy of the original Black Marker, has only one goal which is to transmit its signal into the brains of suitable individuals (like Isaac and Cross) so that they can help it replicate itself. This is because it failed to initiate a convergence event over 200 years ago, because the people that created it (the "makers") needed to die to begin convergence, but they escaped. It wants to be returned to the pedestal on Aegis VII so that it can transmit the signal, so that more Markers can be created. We can see this in Dead Space 2 when the imprinted Marker information in Isaac's brain is used to create a new Marker. The necromorphs are only a tool that the Marker uses to gather biomass for convergence.

It is pretty confusing, and the lore has been retconned a few times. It can be a bit tough to make sense of it.
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jorgrmcr 31.10. klo 17.00 
There are a couple of books that expand the history of the game if you are interested.

Dead Space Martyr is like a pre-quel for the game that explains the origins of the marker and how the myth about it became a religion. And Dead Space Catalyst.
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54W 1.11. klo 6.16 
After taking the red marker onto the Ishimura, It woke up the Hive Mind on Aegis VII, this indicate that there's a connection related to blueprint imprinting between the marker and said creature, the failed convergence is the Hive Mind since the original creator escaped and the marker, when returned to the planet, wrote the blueprint into Isaac's brain along with a special code from the Hive Mind that turn Isaac himself into its creator, The Hive Mind's purpose now is to kill and absorb him to finalize the convergence, or in case Isaac escaped It'll likely turn into another outbreak with another marker built since Unitology is so prevalent across human world.
The reason why there's a dead space that suppress necromorphs around the marker probably to prevent them from accidentaly damage it like the brute.
This is just my theory.
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ArkonBlade 1.11. klo 16.14 
I found the story pretty easy to follow actually
Its just that they never answered some major questions as the series progressed
some miners found the marker on a planet which was a copy made by the government. they didnt know what it did or what it was for so they brought it to a planet to be tested found out it was the stuff of lovecraftian nightmares
quarantined the system
Unitalogists think the marker is some grand part of their religion
the only thing that was never answered or maybe it was and im forgetting is who made the marker and why?
was it some type of alien weapon or some science experiment gone wrong
with EA overestimating the sale of horror games (Resident Evil is the exception) they dont sell huge numbers.
If only EA budgeted this game right and didnt make DS3 lame and stupid we might still have DS games.
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Gekko 3.11. klo 8.02 
ArkonBlade lähetti viestin:
I found the story pretty easy to follow actually
Its just that they never answered some major questions as the series progressed
some miners found the marker on a planet which was a copy made by the government. they didnt know what it did or what it was for so they brought it to a planet to be tested found out it was the stuff of lovecraftian nightmares
quarantined the system
Unitalogists think the marker is some grand part of their religion
the only thing that was never answered or maybe it was and im forgetting is who made the marker and why?
was it some type of alien weapon or some science experiment gone wrong
with EA overestimating the sale of horror games (Resident Evil is the exception) they dont sell huge numbers.
If only EA budgeted this game right and didnt make DS3 lame and stupid we might still have DS games.
the original designers of the markers has never been revealed. they were built by unknown ancient aliens, age is in the millions of years.
maybe we would have gotten anwsers in dead space 4 but the Dead Space franchise collapsed too early.
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ArkonBlade 3.11. klo 8.36 
Gekko lähetti viestin:
ArkonBlade lähetti viestin:
I found the story pretty easy to follow actually
Its just that they never answered some major questions as the series progressed
some miners found the marker on a planet which was a copy made by the government. they didnt know what it did or what it was for so they brought it to a planet to be tested found out it was the stuff of lovecraftian nightmares
quarantined the system
Unitalogists think the marker is some grand part of their religion
the only thing that was never answered or maybe it was and im forgetting is who made the marker and why?
was it some type of alien weapon or some science experiment gone wrong
with EA overestimating the sale of horror games (Resident Evil is the exception) they dont sell huge numbers.
If only EA budgeted this game right and didnt make DS3 lame and stupid we might still have DS games.
the original designers of the markers has never been revealed. they were built by unknown ancient aliens, age is in the millions of years.
maybe we would have gotten anwsers in dead space 4 but the Dead Space franchise collapsed too early.
Ok, I thought so I just couldnt remember its been awhile since I played DS 2 and 3. They should have gotten around to answering that by 3. sadly we will never find out.
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mdesaleah 3.11. klo 14.26 
You kind of need Dead Space 3 for a lot of the answers.

But in typical cosmic horror fashion, those answers bring up more questions. Which I think is something the series ends on very well.

(even if there were ideas for DS4 with Ellie, I think it fits a lot better to have a bleak ending in 3 where the answers they give just make you realize how screwed they were from the start)
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xfgevilhomer91 14.11. klo 1.22 
The story after dead space 1 seemed to have twisted into a new direction they couldn't properly close but I'll tell it as I understand from lore chats.

100ish years ago a team created this red marker trying to replicate a black one originally found on earth.

That caused a large scale necromorph outbreak that eventually created the hive mind.

Somehow the scientists managed to modify the markers signal into a supresent field by placing it on a pedestal they created. Afterwards everyone left the system to rot and made it forbidden space.

Although some new game plus text logs imply Nicole actually communicated with the marker to convince it to try and stop the outbreak (probably by those guiding hallucinations of Nicole)

I think the best explanation honestly is that the marker creats necromorphs and the hive mind Controls them. But the marker was modified to also send out warnings via hallucinations and to suppress the necromorphs when put on the pedestal.
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Cosmic🏳️‍🌈Jester (Porttikiellossa) 14.11. klo 3.19 
hope this clears things up for you all, just listen to the nice lady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRsPXLn3CKo
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Nekros 14.11. klo 9.47 
When the red marker experiment went wrong, the original scientists were able to modify the signal so that it suppressed the necromorph signal. The pedestal greatly amplifies how far that nullification field can reach. This is why the hivemind stayed dormant for 200 years and was never discovered even during colonists building the base. This must also affect how the marker interacts with potential targets. As soon as it was removed from the pedestal is when all the psychosis began happening since the null field was turned off.

To some extent, the marker is aware it was modified, so it needs to get close to people like Isaac so the blueprints for a proper one can be embedded in his psyche. Even though it's trying to get you to turn it back on to nullify the signal it makes. It's just following its modified programming but there's still enough original signal to do what it was designed to do, make dead flesh alive again.
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