Originalmente postado por Z1MercurialGUY:

Something I really hate about PvP in this game now is that everyone just ganks. Yeah I get it sounds like I am complain because I suck.. That's not it, just the fact that almost everyone just ganks and doesn't 1v1 anymore and it sucks.
"The Old Style Of PvP" Where everyone was respectful and went one on one was just so much funner then getting railed by 3 people and having a 5% chance of winning. I truly Think "This New Style Of PvP" Is Garbage.
We should start doing 1v1's again. Anyone else Agree?

-MeMentoMori

DS1 trying to not get backstab by others challenge impossible(still has solo invasion)
DS2 trying to punish a chugger and life gem spam in high lat.(still has solo invasion)
DS3 see who can gank better in pontiff or who can outrun gankers better.(still has solo invasion)
ELDEN RING Go fight three man gank who spam ♥♥♥♥ on you til you're a goner.

It's casuals. They are the main reason pvp is so watered down and basically endless ganks with L2 spam now. The fear of bad red man has turned this part of the game into a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Fromsoft is 100% to blame.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

It's casuals. They are the main reason pvp is so watered down and basically endless ganks with L2 spam now. The fear of bad red man has turned this part of the game into a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Fromsoft is 100% to blame.

in the original vision dark spirit was suppose to be a strong wandering enemy in the world that would fight a solo or three man squad with PVEs as the back up. not a victim to gang up on lmfao

You can still do 1v1 pvp in arena, but yeah, it's not really the same.

I had this idea a while back where you could just select in the options to opt in for classic invasions or modern. Classic invasions obviously being how it worked in DeS, Dks1 and 2, and modern being the Dks3 system and later. I'm sure you could do better than what I got, but it would add a lot IMO. Any of us that prefer the old system it would just be an amazing addition. Using dried tongue as you're going through the level and then reactivating it each time you die can get pretty annoying.

Not to mention since EAC exists, you wouldn't be able to use some mod that auto activates without risking getting a ban.

Originalmente postado por Lylliana of Mirrah:

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

It's casuals. They are the main reason pvp is so watered down and basically endless ganks with L2 spam now. The fear of bad red man has turned this part of the game into a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Fromsoft is 100% to blame.

in the original vision dark spirit was suppose to be a strong wandering enemy in the world that would fight a solo or three man squad with PVEs as the back up. not a victim to gang up on lmfao

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death, but I don't believe it would be the case. The game is flawed on the very base of it.

Having 1v3 fights isn't the biggest issue here.
The biggest one - is an infinite flow of new phantoms (yellow or blue) after you kill one. And total ignorance by the devs of the tongue abuse.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death

nah, overlevelled phantoms say hello even more often

YES

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

Originalmente postado por Lylliana of Mirrah:

in the original vision dark spirit was suppose to be a strong wandering enemy in the world that would fight a solo or three man squad with PVEs as the back up. not a victim to gang up on lmfao

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death, but I don't believe it would be the case. The game is flawed on the very base of it.

downscaled high level players is the issue in those level brackets

Originalmente postado por APTEMOH4UK:

Having 1v3 fights isn't the biggest issue here.
The biggest one - is an infinite flow of new phantoms (yellow or blue) after you kill one. And total ignorance by the devs of the tongue abuse.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death

nah, overlevelled phantoms say hello even more often

seamless kinda made is easier but the experienced players who ganks is also the type where it's not even like 5% chance win it's like 1% since they're like using super meta setup.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

Originalmente postado por Lylliana of Mirrah:

in the original vision dark spirit was suppose to be a strong wandering enemy in the world that would fight a solo or three man squad with PVEs as the back up. not a victim to gang up on lmfao

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death, but I don't believe it would be the case. The game is flawed on the very base of it.

yeah ♥♥♥♥ meta tbh lmfao. heard mfers are going past 160 and play high or max level but the spam i think is even more messed up just like in ds3 just soul spear and giant fire ball spam. but i would love to try RL55 Seamless Invasion see what i got in that range.

Uninvited people demanding you follow their rules will never not be funny

Originalmente postado por Lylliana of Mirrah:

Originalmente postado por APTEMOH4UK:

Having 1v3 fights isn't the biggest issue here.
The biggest one - is an infinite flow of new phantoms (yellow or blue) after you kill one. And total ignorance by the devs of the tongue abuse.


nah, overlevelled phantoms say hello even more often

seamless kinda made is easier but the experienced players who ganks is also the type where it's not even like 5% chance win it's like 1% since they're like using super meta setup.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

It's true. Meta levels are pure cancer now. Wise people say everybody should try invading 40-60 range of levels because those lack the potential to span you to death, but I don't believe it would be the case. The game is flawed on the very base of it.

yeah ♥♥♥♥ meta tbh lmfao. heard mfers are going past 160 and play high or max level but the spam i think is even more messed up just like in ds3 just soul spear and giant fire ball spam. but i would love to try RL55 Seamless Invasion see what i got in that range.

lvl 200+ is a complete brainrot at this point, mostly because it's 3 players spamming L2 again and again. Or 2 gankers with taunter's tongue disabled so they can get unlimited blues for the company.

Logical step forward in next game should be activating solo invasion
by default when you use item like ember or rune arc.

But also giving option for players to opt-out of invasions
by interacting with some NPC, statue or something.
Probably with some price to pay.

So essentially people who want to play co-op without invasions
could do that without resorting to seamless co-op mod
and all the others would have experience similar to Dark Souls I & III.

Or maybe devs come up with entirely different multiplayer mechanic for their next title.
Who knows.

Originalmente postado por lolschrauber:

Uninvited people demanding you follow their rules will never not be funny

i admit that most invaders i see on seamless are crutching and sweating their balls off with a profile full of loli hentai on their artwork section is prolly not funny more like pathetic. i invade too but never to he point playing like these sweatlords. AKA steelovsky wannabes being a clones of some streamer lacking any originality just copy what they did on the stream IE glitches, weapon swap, and armor setup. the type of people who never actually self made a build or playstyle on their own. they live in someone else's shadow. sure these streamers might be like one of those top tier or whatever but that's not a healthy way to keep the game alive most of the time it actually kills off the game because it became boring, boring as if everybody looks the same and using the same ♥♥♥♥ type of way no variety. (game is dying now)

ironically enough the noobs and pveers actually have more creativity than these clones is something else.

Originalmente postado por Phantom Limb:

Originalmente postado por Lylliana of Mirrah:

seamless kinda made is easier but the experienced players who ganks is also the type where it's not even like 5% chance win it's like 1% since they're like using super meta setup.


yeah ♥♥♥♥ meta tbh lmfao. heard mfers are going past 160 and play high or max level but the spam i think is even more messed up just like in ds3 just soul spear and giant fire ball spam. but i would love to try RL55 Seamless Invasion see what i got in that range.

lvl 200+ is a complete brainrot at this point, mostly because it's 3 players spamming L2 again and again. Or 2 gankers with taunter's tongue disabled so they can get unlimited blues for the company.

then added a claustrophobic area to gank a dude with no pve enemies lol

Originalmente postado por Sc0rpiTr0n:

Logical step forward in next game should be activating solo invasion
by default when you use item like ember or rune arc.

But also giving option for players to opt-out of invasions
by interacting with some NPC, statue or something.
Probably with some price to pay.

So essentially people who want to play co-op without invasions
could do that without resorting to seamless co-op mod
and all the others would have experience similar to Dark Souls I & III.

Or maybe devs come up with entirely different multiplayer mechanic for their next title.
Who knows.

in seamless co-op it was optional to turn on invader on or off... but it seems to me most players in seamless do turn on invasions.