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is there no achievement for completing ultra hard from scratch?
i know there is an achievement for completing ultra hard on new game+, but is there one for completing it on a normal save?
Messaggio originale di Raven:
I don't believe there is for just a normal playthrough. New Game+ has an added difficulty on top of whatever difficulty you choose, and NG+ Ultra Hard is meant to be, well, ultra hard, even with the skills and equipment that roll over, so I'm guessing that's why there's only an achievement for that one.
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I don't believe there is for just a normal playthrough. New Game+ has an added difficulty on top of whatever difficulty you choose, and NG+ Ultra Hard is meant to be, well, ultra hard, even with the skills and equipment that roll over, so I'm guessing that's why there's only an achievement for that one.
No, the only achievement for ultra hard is for NG+ ultra hard.
No, and for good reason. Doing Ultra Hard from scratch would be absolutely tedious. Fortunately, Guerilla aren't idiots and don't want to provoke the anger of playerbase by demanding something so crazy.
Messaggio originale di Alcator:
No, and for good reason. Doing Ultra Hard from scratch would be absolutely tedious. Fortunately, Guerilla aren't idiots and don't want to provoke the anger of playerbase by demanding something so crazy.
lol im doing it from scratch and its going fine, just a bunch of rolling around and ten million deaths later. only thing i hate so far are scrappers
Messaggio originale di claire3laine:
lol im doing it from scratch and its going fine, just a bunch of rolling around and ten million deaths later. only thing i hate so far are scrappers

Exactly. Only idiots would think that is OK.
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Messaggio originale di claire3laine:
lol im doing it from scratch and its going fine, just a bunch of rolling around and ten million deaths later. only thing i hate so far are scrappers

Exactly. Only idiots would think that is OK.
i got some serious mental fortitude lol
Good for you, claire. Walk in peace.
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Messaggio originale di claire3laine:
lol im doing it from scratch and its going fine, just a bunch of rolling around and ten million deaths later. only thing i hate so far are scrappers

Exactly. Only idiots would think that is OK.

Just because people dont mind dieing and experimenting on hhardest difficultys doesnt really make them idiots.

I too do like to test myself at times in games like these.

I play many games on hardest difficultys and yes, i die alot, but thatsj ust apart of games. You dont need to be 100% a no death run to complete these. Especially on games where ultra hard is perfectly doable.

I dont see anything wrong with difficulty achievements at all.
Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:
I dont see anything wrong with difficulty achievements at all.

Except when 99.9% of players can't gain certain achievement and get frustrated with you as a developer for putting it in the game, thus preventing them from '100%ing' the game.

There's a reason why DOOM 2016 doesn't have an achievement for completing the game on Ultra Nightmare (only the first map).
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Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:
I dont see anything wrong with difficulty achievements at all.

Except when 99.9% of players can't gain certain achievement and get frustrated with you as a developer for putting it in the game, thus preventing them from '100%ing' the game.

There's a reason why DOOM 2016 doesn't have an achievement for completing the game on Ultra Nightmare (only the first map).

Oh so you want them to put in easy to get achievements? They may as well just do you complete mission A,B,C..... Unlocked all skills, bought x gear. Not exactly a challenge.

I have no issue with games having an achievement I get manage to get. Love to plat/100% several games but as I lack the skill/patience to gain some that doesn't detract from my enjoyment of playing the game. I've probably spend double the amount of time trying to play Kena on PS5 than I did beating it and getting every other trophy.

Ultra hard on this means pay attention to gear, modifications, and plan your attacks. Oh and I'd recommend doing Frozen Wilds for a spear you can Modify and Bows that have Overdraw ability so they do more damage. Skill wise it's not as hard as some other games like the one mentioned above
I have all achievements in this game. Including the UH NG+.

Walk in peace...
Ultima modifica da Alcator; 12 giu 2023, ore 6:41
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Messaggio originale di Alcator:

Except when 99.9% of players can't gain certain achievement and get frustrated with you as a developer for putting it in the game, thus preventing them from '100%ing' the game.

There's a reason why DOOM 2016 doesn't have an achievement for completing the game on Ultra Nightmare (only the first map).

Oh so you want them to put in easy to get achievements? They may as well just do you complete mission A,B,C..... Unlocked all skills, bought x gear. Not exactly a challenge.

I have no issue with games having an achievement I get manage to get. Love to plat/100% several games but as I lack the skill/patience to gain some that doesn't detract from my enjoyment of playing the game. I've probably spend double the amount of time trying to play Kena on PS5 than I did beating it and getting every other trophy.

Ultra hard on this means pay attention to gear, modifications, and plan your attacks. Oh and I'd recommend doing Frozen Wilds for a spear you can Modify and Bows that have Overdraw ability so they do more damage. Skill wise it's not as hard as some other games like the one mentioned above
will do, thanks for the tip! but honestly im kinda sad i dont get an achievement for doing UH from scratch, it just kinda undermines my progress it feels like
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Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:
I dont see anything wrong with difficulty achievements at all.

Except when 99.9% of players can't gain certain achievement and get frustrated with you as a developer for putting it in the game, thus preventing them from '100%ing' the game.

There's a reason why DOOM 2016 doesn't have an achievement for completing the game on Ultra Nightmare (only the first map).
99% players 100% can get ultra hard achievement on this game. Its not even that that hard. Just use the tools given to you by the game. This game has fair difficulty threatment unlike most first person shooters.

This is also the first time I heard about backlash on this achievement in particilair.

If you played Prey (2017) on nightmare difficulty, you can compare it to that as an example.

Its not impossible t o beat this game on ultra hard tbh.
Ultima modifica da GamingWithSilvertail; 13 giu 2023, ore 3:14
Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:
99% players 100% can get ultra hard achievement on this game.
Its not impossible t o beat this game on ultra hard tbh.

I feel like we are not talking about the same thing.

CURRENTLY, there is an achievement for completing Ultra Hard on New Game+. Which means you can do NG+, NG++, NG+++, collecting many copies of the super OP modifications from the DLC area, and then, AFTER you are Level 60 overpowered slayer with 100'000 Metal Shards, and 2000 of each ingredient, go for Ultra Hard. Which mean you won't need to buy at 4x prices, your weapons will be very powerful, your Stealth will be 70% etc. YES, that is very doable.

However, the OP is asking why there is no achievement for doing Ultra Hard from the beginning. Meaning "Baby Aloy" and "one silly bow Aloy" and "no Stealth Aloy" and "Level 1 Aloy", doing 1/4 damage and paying 4x as much for any purchase.

And I claim that such gameplay is insanely tedious for 99.9% of players, so they would not be willing to put up with it. They would bombard SONY/Guerilla with requests to change it, they might review-bomb the game for that decision, etc. etc.

That is ALL I'm saying.
Ultima modifica da Alcator; 13 giu 2023, ore 3:17
So you're trying to say that people whom allready beat ultra hard on ng+ will be mad about another Ultra hard achievement for regulair game?

To say this will lead to review bomb, nah.... I doubt so.
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