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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 3:30
A little quizz for you guys
I love this game and I'm such a nerd when it comes to its mechanisms.
I've thought about some exotic mechanisms and I'd like to test your knowledge of the game!

I'll start with a rather easy question:
What's the maximum number of "DEATH RAYS" you can cast, with a single hero, in a single turn? Anything is allowed (stats, perks, bag...).

Let's see if I got the correct answer or if can cast even more DEATH RAYS than what I thought! Good luck!
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Bumc 29 Ιαν, 5:40 
8 from backpack (4 scrolls + 4 quick reload)
3 from main hand (2 sets + quick reload)
3 from offhand (same deal)
so should be 14 unless they removed offhand death rays or I misremember how quick reload works with scrolls.
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Cryum 29 Ιαν, 5:49 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bumc:
8 from backpack (4 scrolls + 4 quick reload)
3 from main hand (2 sets + quick reload)
3 from offhand (same deal)
so should be 14 unless they removed offhand death rays or I misremember how quick reload works with scrolls.
They removed offhand death ray quite a while ago.

Otherwise it should....be right...?
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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 5:50 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bumc:
8 from backpack (4 scrolls + 4 quick reload)
3 from main hand (2 sets + quick reload)
3 from offhand (same deal)
so should be 14 unless they removed offhand death rays or I misremember how quick reload works with scrolls.

It's less!
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AbigailMcD19 29 Ιαν, 5:52 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bumc:
8 from backpack (4 scrolls + 4 quick reload)
3 from main hand (2 sets + quick reload)
3 from offhand (same deal)
so should be 14 unless they removed offhand death rays or I misremember how quick reload works with scrolls.
Quick reload doesn't work with Scrolls, but I'm pretty sure level 4/5 scrolls have 2 uses per turn anyway
They did change off hands, so off hand orb now has infect, not death ray, since 1.0.2
So I believe that would be 11?
I don't believe Overload will be relevant, as it only increases uses per night not uses per turn
But if scrolls also only have 1 use per turn it would 7 uses in one turn
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από AbigailMcD19; 29 Ιαν, 6:00
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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 6:59 
Here's the answer (I think!)

To the best of my knowledge:
- Scrolls are limited to 1 by turn no matter what (even level 5, no quick reload)
- Quick reload is limited to 1 by turn, which means you cannot reload 2 weapon sets

Weapon set 1 + 1 quick reload = 3
Weapon set 2 = 2
Scrolls = 4

I think 9 is the maximum number of DEATH RAYS you can cast in a single turn, which is already impressive, hitting a maximum of 72 targets!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από desaunay2; 29 Ιαν, 7:06
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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 7:04 
But this was only the warm-up.
Now THIS is a question that will really test your knowledge.

What's the maximum number of ennemies you can kill with a single Blaze (the 1AP propagation skill from the 1 hand crossbow) ?
- Illimited primary stats, secondary stats, perks
- Perfect conditions and RNG
- No help from outside (boomers, other heros...)

I think I have the answer but you'll see it's rather tricky. And it's A LOT of kills! Good luck.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από desaunay2; 29 Ιαν, 7:11
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Bumc 29 Ιαν, 7:42 
Highest blaze bounce count is 11 (3+8 cap)
Using manual targeting for propagation (assuming perfect luck) you can cover pretty much whole square around you with Boom.
https://imgur.com/a/2f5xhDv

36 kills
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AbigailMcD19 29 Ιαν, 9:07 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από desaunay2:
But this was only the warm-up.
Now THIS is a question that will really test your knowledge.

What's the maximum number of ennemies you can kill with a single Blaze (the 1AP propagation skill from the 1 hand crossbow) ?
- Illimited primary stats, secondary stats, perks
- Perfect conditions and RNG
- No help from outside (boomers, other heros...)

I think I have the answer but you'll see it's rather tricky. And it's A LOT of kills! Good luck.

39?
Same logic as Bumc, but the number of targets is number of bounces +1, which ends up being 3 more kills
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από AbigailMcD19; 29 Ιαν, 10:04
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Cryum 29 Ιαν, 9:12 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από desaunay2:
But this was only the warm-up.
Now THIS is a question that will really test your knowledge.

What's the maximum number of ennemies you can kill with a single Blaze (the 1AP propagation skill from the 1 hand crossbow) ?
- Illimited primary stats, secondary stats, perks
- Perfect conditions and RNG
- No help from outside (boomers, other heros...)

I think I have the answer but you'll see it's rather tricky. And it's A LOT of kills! Good luck.
Using BOOM on prop is some very obscure interaction, I dunno how it works
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AbigailMcD19 29 Ιαν, 13:05 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από desaunay2:
Here's the answer (I think!)

To the best of my knowledge:
- Scrolls are limited to 1 by turn no matter what (even level 5, no quick reload)
- Quick reload is limited to 1 by turn, which means you cannot reload 2 weapon sets

Weapon set 1 + 1 quick reload = 3
Weapon set 2 = 2
Scrolls = 4

I think 9 is the maximum number of DEATH RAYS you can cast in a single turn, which is already impressive, hitting a maximum of 72 targets!

Had a look, and apparently yeah, all scrolls except teleportation only have 1 use per turn! I would have sworn that as well as more damage you got more per turn uses on high level scrolls, but it must only be per night uses
So yeah, on the current version of the game it's 9!
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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 14:52 
Yes Bumc and Abigail, you got it.

To the best of my knowledge, this is the maximal number of kills :


Initial hit + 11 bounces makes 12 targets.
Each target kills 2 extra targets with BOOM!, except the ones at the start and the end of the propagation that can hit 3 extra targets.
That makes 10x3+2x4 = 38 kills !
Not bad for only 1 action point...

Following the same reasoning, quickshot could potentially kill up to 7x5 targets = 35 for a single action point!

BOOM! requires to kill all units in a 3 max range, but I think it should fit?!?

No wonder the 1h crossbow is the best weapon in the game, OP OP!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από desaunay2; 29 Ιαν, 15:04
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desaunay2 29 Ιαν, 15:00 
Using BOOM on prop is some very obscure interaction, I dunno how it works

Yes, there are several obscure interactions when you think about it. For example, I always wonder what happens whit the dodge chance when Blaze is cast in an area with no dodge penalty but ends up killing a runner in a far away area. What dodge penalty is applied? I don't think BOOM! can be dodged though. Regarding Proximity shot, I'm pretty sure only the first Blaze hit counts and is then propagated.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από desaunay2; 29 Ιαν, 15:00
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