If you kill her, she is dead and out of the game. Like any other NPC.

Inazuma lähetti viestin:

Killing Minthara?
can you kill her in act one now and she'll show up in act 2? Or do you have to knock her out still?

What in tarnation makes you think that to begin with?

In my actual run (still the first one) i didn't knew that you could knock her out without actually killing her... F for her

If you want her for a companion doing a good play run, you need to knock her out at the Goblin camp in the temple. Toggle the non lethal option and use a melee attack to knock her out.

Leave her there on the floor and finish up the rest of the quest and later in the Shadowlands, the first time you go to Moonrise Tower, she will be there in a trial. She will be imprisoned and you will need to rescue her from her tormentors and then escort out to the Moonrise Tower waypoint.

She can be escorted out by going into combat mode and then casting invisibility on her. Be careful not to get too close to the Eyes roaming around. They will see thru the invisibility spell.

At that point, reaching the fast travel point without being detected, you will have the option to recruit her by telling her to go to your camp.

I'm trying to figure out a reason why a good-aligned party would want Minthara in their party to begin with. She's a Lolth-sworn Drow; they don't get much more evil than that.

Send her to the Abyss with the rest of her evil kind!

mike_hanna211 lähetti viestin:

I'm trying to figure out a reason why a good-aligned party would want Minthara in their party to begin with. She's a Lolth-sworn Drow; they don't get much more evil than that.

Send her to the Abyss with the rest of her evil kind!

Because she has some of the best dialogue in the game. Role-play is fine, but fun dialogue overrules it.

... only paladin companion in the game (though there is Kerz the hireling) ...
... her romance (pretty intense even IF you miss the infamous Act 1 scene) ...
... as dialogue with her allows you to tell her (if only later on in Moonrise), you thought she could be a valuable ally ... to take down something far more evil ... she may not be a saint, but you will find out the Absolute forced her to do many things she regretted ...
... I think there are many ways a good character could RP taking her in the party; same reasons I took in the evil Hellknight in WotR, even if my char was good .... however, of course, my good Tavs always try to talk her out of her ultimate goal because they do not want to take control of the Absolute and you pretty much can sway her from that, too.

BTW, you can run into a dead Minthara (before joining the party) again, as a zombie ...
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Zombie_Minthara

wtiger27 lähetti viestin:

If you want her for a companion doing a good play run, you need to knock her out at the Goblin camp in the temple. Toggle the non lethal option and use a melee attack to knock her out.

Leave her there on the floor and finish up the rest of the quest and later in the Shadowlands, the first time you go to Moonrise Tower, she will be there in a trial. She will be imprisoned and you will need to rescue her from her tormentors and then escort out to the Moonrise Tower waypoint.

She can be escorted out by going into combat mode and then casting invisibility on her. Be careful not to get too close to the Eyes roaming around. They will see thru the invisibility spell.

At that point, reaching the fast travel point without being detected, you will have the option to recruit her by telling her to go to your camp.

Generally I find it's as easy as this ... ok I'll keep this in spoiler tags also:


You want to persuade either Z'rell or Ketheric not to have her executed. I believe Z'rell has the easier persuasion check. Then they take her to the prison below.

Kill her tormentors.

Persuade the guard by the stairs into letting you take her out of the prison. (or kill him, but I believe that aggros the other guards nearby).

Walk out the front door. One more persuasion check for the guards at the Moonrise gates, and then you are home free. (I think you can kill them and nobody on the inside will notice, but I don't bother. Minthara certainly urges you to fight all the guards, but it's not as easy when she's just a limited NPC.)

Getting her out of the prison is fairly easy. You only must kill her captors. (Though I think you can also deceive them into releasing her. But I always kill them, it doesn't aggro any of the guards outside her cell.)

mike_hanna211 lähetti viestin:

I'm trying to figure out a reason why a good-aligned party would want Minthara in their party to begin with. She's a Lolth-sworn Drow; they don't get much more evil than that.

Send her to the Abyss with the rest of her evil kind!

I don't recall the OP mentioning their alignment status. Mine are usually neutral with party members of all alignment types. It makes for colorful conversation. I suppose I, myself, am mostly good-aligned though because Minthara hates almost everything I do. :D

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mike_hanna211 lähetti viestin:

I'm trying to figure out a reason why a good-aligned party would want Minthara in their party to begin with. She's a Lolth-sworn Drow; they don't get much more evil than that.

Send her to the Abyss with the rest of her evil kind!

I don't recall the OP mentioning their alignment status. Mine are usually neutral with party members of all alignment types. It makes for colorful conversation. I suppose I, myself, am mostly good-aligned though because Minthara hates almost everything I do. :D

Yeah look, honestly my alignments would be "do all the things" which include getting all the companions :P

I knocked her off a cliff I think. I don't remember her at all lol. I even went back to look for her corpse, but I was in a push you to your death phase in that goblin temple until I realized all the loot I was missing.

Just download summon minthara mod from Nexus.

I think she is still waiting for me at the Mountain Pass, yes, I made a terrible mistake in the Grove. Thought 'it is locked and no one gets out or hears what it going on' when going for that one kill, but somehow....... Should I go to her? Or take the Underdark?

mike_hanna211 lähetti viestin:

I'm trying to figure out a reason why a good-aligned party would want Minthara in their party to begin with. She's a Lolth-sworn Drow; they don't get much more evil than that.

Send her to the Abyss with the rest of her evil kind!

Who says My party is good aligned? Just cause I didn't help Minthara slaughter the Grove doesn't make my party "good". I could very well be neutral af. Or maybe Chaotic Neutral. Both would have reasons for not killing Minthara to recruit her.

GHOSTanbul lähetti viestin:

Just download summon minthara mod from Nexus.

Debug Book can also spawn her. Used to use that method back when I had trouble acquiring her, and I couldn't use Daughter of Lolth.

One warning - spawning her when she's already 'dead' can affect scripting and flags, and be a little wonky. I found out the hard way.